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Obama: Terminal Patients May Be Denied Some Treatment Under Health Plan
Patriot Room ^ | April 30, 2009 | Bill Dupray

Posted on 04/30/2009 2:58:28 PM PDT by Bill Dupray

“I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost,” Mr. Obama said in the interview with David Leonhardt of The Times. “I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement, just because she’s my grandmother. Whether, sort of in the aggregate, society making those decisions to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill is a sustainable model is a very difficult question.”

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KEYWORDS: euthanasia; healthcare; moralabsolutes; obama; prolife; rationing; terminal
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1 posted on 04/30/2009 2:58:33 PM PDT by Bill Dupray
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Well, the man is making sense on this point. An enormous % of US medical expenditure is on patients who are dead within 3 months.


2 posted on 04/30/2009 3:01:24 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: Bill Dupray

....hey BAMBI, check with the Schiavo family, like you did with the 9/11 families......


3 posted on 04/30/2009 3:02:54 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Bill Dupray

At this point, there is nothing we can do about it.

Just please pass me the Morphine and let me go painlessly. Morphine is pretty cheap and basically the decision is out of my hands.


4 posted on 04/30/2009 3:03:35 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Bill Dupray

Okay, he’s just explained why we should not go to this model. That you Obama for refuting your own healthcare plan.

He is such a liar. It is not “may”, it is “will”. What a pathological commie lib.


5 posted on 04/30/2009 3:03:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Bill Dupray
Older Americans who worked all their lives and paid taxes need to sacrifice to insure illegal aliens get the best free health care and ENDLESS other govt benefits.

I mean really stop complaining or inconveniencing illegal aliens.

6 posted on 04/30/2009 3:04:22 PM PDT by Frantzie ("Remember when Bush was President & Americans had jobs?")
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To: babble-on
That's probably associated with their end of life situation.

Usually if you're that sick, a joint replacement is off the radar.

There's a lot of good things that the current system does for the elderly and I just can't wait till the bluehairs that voted for Obama realize they are paying more and getting less.

7 posted on 04/30/2009 3:04:38 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Ayers Lied, People Died. No Justice, No Peace.)
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To: babble-on

“Well, the man is making sense on this point. An enormous % of US medical expenditure is on patients who are dead within 3 months.”

Do you want some government paper pusher figuring out how much longer you’ll have. If I happened to be incredibly wealthy, and wanted to keep doing procedures until the day I died, I should have that right. Teddy Kennedy does...but the rest of us shouldn’t?


8 posted on 04/30/2009 3:06:05 PM PDT by lacrew (Axe not what your teleprompter can do for you....)
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To: Doctor Raoul

By 2030, one in every five Americans will be 65 or older.


9 posted on 04/30/2009 3:07:23 PM PDT by kabar
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10 posted on 04/30/2009 3:07:35 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Frantzie

Exactly.


11 posted on 04/30/2009 3:08:40 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Bill Dupray

12 posted on 04/30/2009 3:08:40 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: lacrew

It reads to me like you agree with BO. He’s saying you can pay for it out of pocket if you like, but it won’t be sustainable for the public system to pay for it. Makes sense to me.


13 posted on 04/30/2009 3:09:52 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: netmilsmom
At this point, there is nothing we can do about it.

Just please pass me the Morphine and let me go painlessly. Morphine is pretty cheap and basically the decision is out of my hands.

Your perspective is wrong. If it's you making the decision about your life, or a loved one doing the same should you be unable to, that's one thing. But here the potential is the government making that decision (or forcing it on the medical community through law). And that's wrong.

14 posted on 04/30/2009 3:11:48 PM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: Bill Dupray

Since Obama, nothing about life has any meaning. Nobody, babies, family, friends, parents, grandparents mean anything. A person can wake up in the morning to the promise of a new day.....until you remember Obama....it goes downhill from there.

Life is all about the state, making sure we work to pay for those that keep the evil democrats in power.

I am ashamed of all of us for allowing this evil to overpower the the decency of humans.

Quite frankly, death is preferable to serving evil.


15 posted on 04/30/2009 3:12:18 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Bill Dupray
...when you consider the amount of government waste,illegals, and out and out FRAUD THE government refuses to address, our medicaid coverage would be a quarter of what we pay now...THEY the government allow all sorts of illegals to obtain benefits meant for AMERICANS, AND THEN complain about the cost....and HOW THEY ARE GOING TO FIX IT sorry for the shouting, but if I typed what I was saying here, I'd get banned
16 posted on 04/30/2009 3:12:33 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doctor Raoul

If you’re THAT sick, a hip replacement is probably not high on the list.
BUT, down the road they could be a different scenario.


17 posted on 04/30/2009 3:14:16 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The plan... 0 in power for life. At least that's what they told him.)
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To: Bill Dupray
I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement, just because she’s my grandmother.

I'd lay odds you and I will NOT have the option to go outside the system.

The government system will have to force everyone to play by their rules without a parallel out of pocket system. Otherwise, they will not be able to force Physicians to work by their rules and pay scales.

18 posted on 04/30/2009 3:14:26 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Bill Dupray

“is a very difficult question”

Which on my behalf, is above his pay grade unless he gets a medical license and becomes my doctor or becomes my guardian (which I believe is his goal for all of us, to control our income and our lives because he is so much better than “we”)

Let’s just guess what he would have chosen for poor Toot if she had not had the marbles to make her own decision....the fact that she chose the chance to live without hip pain for her remaining days- should in itself tell him the decision IS NOT “HIS” (or THE GOVTS) to make.


19 posted on 04/30/2009 3:14:31 PM PDT by silverleaf (We live in interesting times: now the entire IRS works for a tax evader)
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To: babble-on

I can’t imagine any health insurance company paying for a hip replacement for someone who is terminally ill - even if they have a couple of years left.


20 posted on 04/30/2009 3:17:06 PM PDT by Texas_shutterbug
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