Is Obama Pushing People Over The Edge?

secondamendmentfreedom.blogspot.com/ ^ | 04/06/09 | sasparilla

[GunsareOK]

Whatever the case is, this is another “crisis” for him to take advantage of.

[Old Sarge]

If they had only sworn the Personal Oath Of Fealty To The Messiah in time, their hearts would have turned, a light would have shown down upon them, and the grace of The One (piss be upon him) would have saved all those souls.

[ClearCase_guy]

It would be interesting to see a chart of the number of incidents in which 3 or more people were shot. It seems like during the Clinton administration there were quite a few incidents. Now, under Obama there is a resurgence. Obviously some incidents occurred under George W. Bush, but I don't recall them being so frequent or horrific.

I don't know what it is about having a Dem in the White House, but it seems to put people on edge. Or over it.

[jiggyboy]

The largest mass murder shooting in the USA was August 1, 1966, when Charles Whitman shot and killed killed 14 people and wounded 32 others from atop a clock tower at the University of Texas.

Huh? The VA Tech death toll was in the high 20's or even 30's I believe.

[Sir Clancelot]

These people killed because they had killer’s hearts. Yet rather than accept responsibility, a bunch of people will affix blame to a variety of issues: guns, unemployment, bullying, self-esteem issues, Christianity, Obama, Bush, Cheney, Rush, Coulter, and on and on.

I’ll bet if you looked over the past 10 years, the number of these things hasn’t changed much. Just the reporting and the need to find reasons other than an evil heart in the perpetrator.

[Joe Brower]

Good questions, although we did have (unfortunately) similar incidents (remember VA Tech?) during GWB's administration. Not as many so closely bunched together, tho'...

[palmer]

Absolutely. The gun incidents and corresponding media coverage are intended to create popular support for gun control. The exact mechanism of how people snap may be an individual mystery, but the media coverage certainly has some causal effect.

[hiredhand]

The world is full of crazy, malicious people. Obama is one of them. To suggest that he's the one pushing them over the edge is probably a stretch. It was definitely his type though that created the environment which causes people already on the edge to snap and then we have things like the headlines you've listed.

If Obama were truly pushing people over the edge, we would move against him and his ilk with force starting with local politicians and supporters and it would only get bigger, uglier and nastier from there. Fortunately for all of us, we're just a little more stable than that. :-)

Funny thing though...my own mother is a liberal. ...don't even ASK, because I have NO idea. But she told me even before Obama took office that she was loathing them being in office for the simple reason that she knew crime rates were going to go up. Then of course, she meandered into the suggestion that "they" outlaw guns so bad people can't do bad things...and I reminded her that her precious grandkids are EBR toting types, and she said, "NOT them...just everybody else.. Ah...the liberal mind! Completely at odds with even itself!

[AmericanInTokyo]

It is the current economy and personal problems in large measure, and of course it also boils down to great selfishness, self-centeredness, spoiled lives that can't cope like an adult and handle a little stress or economic uncertainty or divorce or what not, and rushes--in a fit or rage--and in an "I'll show those people a thing or two!" irrational revenge mindset, straight for a weapon to take out unknown people, sometimes en-masse. Satan also has a hand in it, as well as modern people's lack of personal responsiblity, if you want my take. It certain isn't the weapon's fault. These handguns, rifles and shotguns aren't just firing themselves.

These guys saying 'I cannot handle being unemployed for two weeks' who have never walked through a Bangladesh slum which still has adults and kids smiling and bearing with life but are 1000x worse than even the most terrible American slum or unemployed rust belt city, are the epitome in my opinion of some pretty insular, fat, pampered, spoiled, secular, selfish Americans who have essentially lost their souls. They are a curse to our nation, and a growing international embarrassment. (Yes, these shootings are carried far and wide and the US, unfairly, is getting a rotten image even though probably less than 1% of Americans would do such a heinous thing).

There will be more of these though. Probably one within the month, maybe 5, 10, 15 killed. This "Me" Generation gives birth to it, more so than Obama as a person in my opinion. America had guns around en masse for decades upon decades, and people had responsibility and generally did not freak out at the slightest adversity in life, i.e. they sucked it up.

I am beginning to think that that (good, responsible, non-crybaby, moral) American culture maybe gone for good--I hope not.

[Soothesayer]

They’ll use it as an excuse t ban both guns and knives for the ‘protection of the citizenry’.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Almost like one big, slow national Cultural Reichstag Fire.

[ClearCase_guy]

The gun incidents and corresponding media coverage are intended to create popular support for gun control.

Yes. As I recall, the VA Tech incident aftermath centered around the need for social workers -- the shooter was alienated and unhappy, couldn't someone have helped him? Why didn't someone see? Should college admissions offices change their policies? etc. etc.

Of course, now, all the incidents point to one thing: we need to get rid of guns.

Under President Bush, the Left knew that gun control wasn't going to gain ground -- so they pushed for an increased Social services budget, and the GOP wasn't shy about approving that kind of spending. Now under Obama there is more hope of gun control, so that angle is pursued rather than funding for social work.

The Left is flexible about how they pursue their agenda.

[Big_Harry]

Only cowards kill defenseless civilians or ambush police officers responding to a call. The quickest way to turn the populace against a cause is to allow barbarous acts against the civilian population. All patriots need to speak out vehemently against this type of cowardice and distance ourselves from any acts of domestic terrorism before GovCo brands every dissenter as a terrorist and uses these heinous crimes as an excuse to further revoke our liberty.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Very very perceptive. Good!

[palmer]

Oddly enough after the VA Tech shooting the media allowed a few editorials about how one professor with a gun could have cut short the rampage. There will be no such hypotheticals allowed now.

[Rome2000]

There were a couple of bad ones during the Bush terms but there were a lot more under Clinton

[graywaiter]

Yes, it was 32 not including the shooter.

[Califreak]

I wouldn’t necessarily blame all of it on Zero.

He’s just one guy, who gets a lot of help from the hill.

[graywaiter]

There are active groups fighting for allowing “certified” students to carry on campus. I know several students at tech that are on the shooting team, that are of age, have cwp’s and are fighting tooth and nail for this.