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“Conspiracy Theorists” Not So Crazy After All
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Posted on 04/03/2009 8:27:03 PM PDT by FromLori

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1 posted on 04/03/2009 8:27:03 PM PDT by FromLori
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To: FromLori
Here's how it is:

The old Fabian strategy was to get socialist-minded people elected into government. Bit by bit, slowly over time, they would edge a country closer to socialism. The Democrats have been doing this for decades. Food stamps, welfare, social security, medicare, bit by bit the US has been getting close to socialism.

But the whole job cannot be done that way.

No, the Fabian approach will get you part of the way, but there comes a point of danger to the strategy -- but it is also a point of opportunity. When 51% of the population pays no taxes, then the situation is full of danger, because productive citizens begin to see the situation as untenable. However, with 51% of the population liking the situation, there is an opportunity for sudden, decisive action.

In left-wing discourse, ‘Blanquism’ refers to a conception of revolution generally attributed to Louis Auguste Blanqui which holds that socialist revolution should be carried out by a relatively small group of highly organized and secretive conspirators. Having taken power, the revolutionaries would then use the power of the state to introduce socialism or communism. It is considered a particular sort of ‘putschism’ - that is, the view that political revolution should take the form of a putsch or coup d’etat.

The approach of Blanqui was disdained by Marx, Lenin and others. Too sudden, they said. Not practical, they said. The people would not be ready, they said.

But the Fabian approach has made the people ready. Now, a small group of radicals from Chicago, suddenly thrust into power at a moment of crisis, can complete the task.

A true coup d'etat. But a coup de le monde, in fact.

2 posted on 04/03/2009 8:40:08 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It’s the same concept Asimov’s Foundation Trilogy seemed to employ. Psychohistory. Only of course stretched way beyond what is feasible (ie across thousands of years and not counting singularities).


3 posted on 04/03/2009 8:49:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The Fabians have a name for their way of doing things and it is called the Third Way.


4 posted on 04/03/2009 8:52:59 PM PDT by Steel Bill
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To: Secret Agent Man
I think Alinsky saw the possibility. And possibly Gramsci. I really think there has been an underground tradition trying to make this happen.

Marx thought that class warfare in the most developed country would lead to revolution. That didn't happen. Instead, backwards countries has the revolution, and the most developed countries did not. But I think the theorists looked more carefully at the developed countries and decided to use their wealth to corrupt the population -- don't make the poor hate the rich. Instead, make the rich feel guilty about the poor. Make the rich willingly give to the poor.

And then spring the trap. Not a revolution from the bottom up -- a coup from the top down.

5 posted on 04/03/2009 8:55:06 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: Steel Bill

You know it’s bad when you get home from work and think your kids are watching “The Matrix” yet again—when it turns out they’re really watching news.


6 posted on 04/03/2009 8:59:45 PM PDT by combat_boots (The answer to 1984 is 1776)
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To: FromLori
I keep telling you people. The ‘Turner Diaries’ are beginning to show the prophetic nature of what people called trash during the 80’s and 90’s.
The Democratic Party's contrived and conspired financial crisis and Obama’s call to the youth to join his ‘Jugend’ movement may soon trigger unprecedented violence not seen since the revolution and the Civil War.
7 posted on 04/03/2009 9:10:46 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: ClearCase_guy

well the only way it would work would be if people were not educated to know socialism. mission accomplished.


8 posted on 04/03/2009 9:13:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: combat_boots

Hey I like your handle. I served back in the 80’s and when my son returned from Iraq he gave me a pair of the ones they wear now and damn they were infinitly better than the old ones. Good one about the Matrix as news thing. I suppose you know the about the Wizard of Oz hidden meaning thing also. In my version Dorothy takes a flame thrower to the Wizard.


9 posted on 04/03/2009 9:19:17 PM PDT by Steel Bill
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To: Secret Agent Man

The time will come when Americans will need to act. When that day comes it may be a time of great passion and little reason. It will be the time of People’s Justice and all enemies of the people, real or imagined, will face swift execution. The class warfare used for so long by the Liberals to gain and use power can black lash upon them. They are now in charge and if they blow it—they will be blamed and pay a price. Things could get bad really fast. Social unrest and maybe even Civil War. Lets hope the Conservatives can organize and save the Republic before that day. Ballots are better than bullets any time. lets hope I am wrong.


10 posted on 04/03/2009 9:27:48 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Problem is everyone can be an ‘enemy’ to someone else when you live in a country that is pretty much 50-50 split on major issues. We’ll be damn lucky to survive it if it happens.


11 posted on 04/03/2009 9:36:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: FromLori

as penance for their obstinacy in ignoring the obvious for so long, and for pillorying those of us who have been faithfully sounding the alarm, they should be required to stand in Times Square wearing a tin foil hat and a sandwich-board sign declaring “I’m a Conspiracy Whacko Too!”


12 posted on 04/03/2009 9:42:21 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: FromLori

The New American magazine is published by/for the John Birch Society.


13 posted on 04/03/2009 9:45:49 PM PDT by blam
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To: Secret Agent Man
(ie across thousands of years and not counting singularities).

The Mule, am I correct?

14 posted on 04/03/2009 9:46:07 PM PDT by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: Doc91678

The Turner Diaries was one of the most disgusting screeds I ever subjected myself to. Of course, I have never had any use for rascists and that entire book read like a white supremist wet dream.

If the people of this country ever get riled up enough to punch the reset button with a new revolution or civil war, I would pray that we can leave behind a couple of the misbegotten ideas our founding fathers deferred ridding the nation of when they formed the union.


15 posted on 04/03/2009 9:50:30 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: Secret Agent Man
"Problem is everyone can be an ‘enemy’ to someone else when you live in a country that is pretty much 50-50 split on major issues. We’ll be damn lucky to survive it if it happens."

If???  Wakie-wakie!

16 posted on 04/03/2009 10:04:49 PM PDT by Outland (So when do we stop typing and start the tea party?)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I’m pretty liberal and an atheist. I’m not a typical conservative choir boy, but...things are definitely rolling away in the US far faster than I ever imagined, and half of me is in a panic while the other is in depressive acceptance.

I do not believe it is a conspiracy of minds but merely a conspiracy of fact, of small changes, primarily immigration and the gaining of power among non-Americans and non-American minded people (white-hating minorities and white hating whites) all enabled by an unwillingness for Americans to stand up for themselves after WWII.

Look at all the failures:
Acceptance of Spanish in public schools
Use of Cheap Mexican labor
Unwillingness to demand integration and acceptance of American values from immigrants because those values are predominantely seen in White americans, as though that were a valid reason to reject them.
Unwillingness to stop immigration for fear of being called racist
Believing the lie we CANNOT send illegals home
Unwillingness to stop Jackson/Sharpton from shaking down companies
Unwillingness to stop affirmative action even though it’s clearly one-directional and racist
Afraid to say anything about Hispanic gangs
Afraid to say anything about black on white crime
Taking all the blame for black on white crime!
Constant focus on the KKK as the greatest evil in America even though there are only 30 members, all in their 80s with no teeth and no voice.
The allowance and acceptance for things like hate crimes and hate speech which are just ways of limiting the speech of whites and straights and by throwing the book at any white who ever does anything wrong to a non-white.

Bush did a lot of the coup de grace financial damage himself with the bank takovers—forced takeovers by threatening to audit banks not affected by subprime if they didn’t take tarp money.
Bush did that—thus most large banks ended up taking tarp money and getting majority shareholder ownership by uncle sam.

Then Obama comes to town and moves into those banks, who again were never involved with subprime and were solvent, and the banks are now being told what to do.

Bush was the idiot to gave away the shop. Obama is just taking the next step. Bush is sort of the moronic herd leader who can’t figure out what the hell to do.

Again...this is my main beef with Bush. He was an idiot about immigration. He was an idiot about tarp. Just an idiot all the way around and managed to screw up every decision he made one way or another.

Now Obama isn’t a bad guy. But he’s not a free marketeer, and he is a people pleaser. He has to please the rest of the world, which more or less, is socialist. In his effort to make them love him, he’ll sell out the country.
I heard Krauthammer say this in an interview. It’s the most profound thing I’ve heard in a long time. It’s just so true.

There’s no way to win this. It’s over.

I just hope something better lies ahead, although it will not be the same system and freedom we had.

We’re on the ship. There’s no going back folks.


17 posted on 04/03/2009 10:23:21 PM PDT by kbingham
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To: FromLori

Read the Book of Revelations in the Bible. Its all in there.


18 posted on 04/03/2009 10:35:43 PM PDT by beckysueb (Palin/Jindahl in 2012)
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To: kbingham

Now Obama isn’t a bad guy.
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LOL, yea what a guy! I have to go throw up. I love your optimism. It’s not over, you are going to be surprised.


19 posted on 04/03/2009 10:52:58 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: kbingham

You are wrong. America can and will recover. and it will be a new America where a man can speak his mind and Metrosexuals are not the norm. It will be a nation of people proud of their nation and if anyone says different—they newspapers will be pulled apart, in anyone calls America mean or ugly they will have to face the wrath of the people. PC will become what it has always been, a cruel joke along with Global Warming. Bush was part of the problem, yes, but there lodes of blame to go round. You can Blame a bunch on LBJ, on Carter yes, and even Reagan (Illegal amnesty). Obama is a tool of powerful people behind the scenes. We must not be stayed by fear, or false charges of racism. Maybe we need a little racism—maybe we need to be as proud of the White race as the black and browns are proud of their people. I am not willing to give the nation to these loud mouth lay abouts.


20 posted on 04/04/2009 1:39:11 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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