Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Reimporting Cheap Drugs Will Destroy Big Pharma’s Incentive to Innovate
All American Blogger ^ | 3-16-09 | Duane Lester

Posted on 03/16/2009 4:07:18 PM PDT by Bodhi1

Without the profit on drugs, there is no research and development. There is no innovation. There are no new drugs.

It's happened before, exactly as described above, in America:

After anthrax-laced letters killed five Americans in the wake of the 2001 World Trade Center attacks, Secretary of Health Tommy Thompson threatened to suspend Bayer's patent on its antibiotic Cipro unless the company agreed to his "preferred" price. Bayer, faced with the prospect of generic companies getting the right to break its U.S. patent, caved and slashed its price from $1.83 to less than $1 per pill.

In 2004, Congress passed legislation, called Project BioShield, designed to spur private sector development of treatments for potential bioterrorist attacks. But nearly three years after the bill was signed, pharma companies have expressed little interest in the program. Not a single new product has been approved by the FDA.

Why? One major reason is the suspicion that, in the event of an attack, the government will offer pennies on the dollar for bio- terror drugs and will break patents to ramp up generic production. Instead of joining the biodefense effort, big companies are thus focusing their efforts on diseases like cancer or heart disease — where financial rewards are left to market forces. (Emphasis mine.)

Because of profits, we have a California biotech company that created a new AIDS drug. Because of profits, Pfizer has created the drug Sutent, which slowed the progression of pancreatic cancer. And because of profits we have new drugs being created and tested every day, including "36 for high blood pressure, 33 for heart failure, 16 for heart attacks, and 22 for stroke."

(Excerpt) Read more at allamericanblogger.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: demmedicine; drugs; healthcare; pricecontrol; reimportation

1 posted on 03/16/2009 4:07:18 PM PDT by Bodhi1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Bodhi1

Anybody have any knowledge of Fenoglide (fenofibrate)?

Cholesterol medication.


2 posted on 03/16/2009 4:12:13 PM PDT by digger48
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bodhi1

Uh, wouldn’t it make more sense to sell them cheaply here to begin with?


3 posted on 03/16/2009 4:12:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bodhi1

One drug co altered the strength of one of their drugs by 0.10 mg. That way, they get to re-issue it as a ‘new’ drug; thus, no generic is now available.

Since the original strength is no longer ‘available’, the original generic versions are not either.

How convenient. Now they can charge $40 instead of $4 for a month’s supply.


4 posted on 03/16/2009 4:14:20 PM PDT by TomGuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek
Uh, wouldn’t it make more sense to sell them cheaply here to begin with?

No! Patent holders are legal monopolists. Monopolists use price discrimination between markets to increase profits. Drug companies sell drugs in poorer countries at lower prices just like any monopolist trying to maximise the amount of consumer surplus extracteed.

5 posted on 03/16/2009 4:20:12 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek
What would make sense would be requiring the pharmaceuticals to charge the same price around the world.

No discounts to commie-care nations with socialized medicine. That would bring our prices down and still allow the companies to make a decent profit.

6 posted on 03/16/2009 4:22:37 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

All I want is for them to share the R&D costs equally between nations. As it’s been we’ve been subsidizing people in other countries.


7 posted on 03/16/2009 4:28:15 PM PDT by SENTINEL (SGT USMC GWI)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ROCKLOBSTER
No discounts to commie-care nations with socialized medicine.

Absolutely. People can make all the excuses they want for "poorer" countries but nations like Canada aren't "poorer" in any meaningful way. The funny thing is that these companies lobby to prevent cheaper medicines from coming back into the country at the same time they lobby to import cheap labor for themselves.
8 posted on 03/16/2009 4:34:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: digger48
“Anybody have any knowledge of Fenoglide (fenofibrate)?”

Member of a class of drugs called ‘fibrates’ that lower triglycerides and cholesterol and that can increase HDL (’good cholesterol’) levels. They've been around for awhile. The mechanism of action is thought to be in part via an agonist effect on PPARalpha, a nuclear receptor/transcription factor that controls the expression of genes involved in metabolism.

9 posted on 03/16/2009 4:42:24 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ROCKLOBSTER
What would make sense would be requiring the pharmaceuticals to charge the same price around the world.

Yeah, that's the ticket...and while we're at it why don't we require them to pay all of their employees the same wages in every country. Oh the humanity!!! It is so unfair!


10 posted on 03/16/2009 4:47:52 PM PDT by terryt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: SENTINEL

It costs roughly One BILLION dollars per new drug, whether it gets approved and ever makes a penny or not.

Without Big Pharma in the United States the world would be a much darker place. As usual, we do most of the heavy lifting.


11 posted on 03/16/2009 4:51:17 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: pieceofthepuzzle

Had a lot of problems with side effects from other cholesterol drugs. really leary of this one, especially when Habib at Walmart Pharm wouldn’t quote me a price without filling the scrip first.


12 posted on 03/16/2009 4:52:49 PM PDT by digger48
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek
Uh, wouldn’t it make more sense to sell them cheaply here to begin with?

Do you mean price controls? Have you taken a basic course in economics? Do you understand the impact of price controls (a price ceiling in this case)? Price controls here will lead to much less innovation. The only innovation will be government funded research. A federal government agency will determine allowable drugs.

This importation plan will not work. Other countries will not allow export of their cheap drugs. Drug companies will not supply enough drugs for export in large quantities. This bill is only a pretense to impose price controls. When importing fails, the rats will bash big Pharma and impose price controls.

13 posted on 03/16/2009 5:04:59 PM PDT by businessprofessor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek
No discounts to commie-care nations with socialized medicine.

Do you think that the pharma companies discount this voluntarily? They either sell to the single payer systems at the discounted price or don't sell it at all. They choose to make substandard margins in selected markets rather than nothing. The only way they can afford to do this is because that can charge a larger than normal margin in the US. If they don't sell outside of the US, I can guarantee you it won't get cheaper here at home because of the reduced volumes. The market, such as it exists, is setting the price.

If you allow the discounted drugs to be used in the US on a large scale, you will eventually kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

14 posted on 03/16/2009 5:15:36 PM PDT by terryt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: digger48

Here’s an “alternative approach” to reducing cholesterol.

http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/which-is-better.html


15 posted on 03/18/2009 11:17:55 PM PDT by MetaThought
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: digger48

If you’re interested in that sort of thing.


16 posted on 03/18/2009 11:18:19 PM PDT by MetaThought
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson