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To: TChad
The short form has been considered inadequate documentation for paternity cases,

Yes, and so is the long form. You cannot prove paternity with a birth ceriticate. That requires a DNA test. Duh.

for some Hawaiian state agencies,

False. I defy you to find me a single Hawaiian state agency that does not accept a short form as sufficient to prove brith in Hawaii.

and for some federal agencies.

Also false. I defy you to find me a single federal agency that does not accept a short form COLB as proof of birth in the US.

72 posted on 03/04/2009 10:07:08 AM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity
You cannot prove paternity with a birth ceriticate.

So on your planet, birth certificates are never admitted as evidence in paternity cases, only DNA evidence is ever admitted.

As for the rest, I provided a link, but apparently it was too much trouble for you to click on it.

And, predictably, you did not address my main points.

Too bad. I am still hoping for someone to point out some obvious flaws in my argument, but I guess you aren't that person.

73 posted on 03/04/2009 5:20:26 PM PST by TChad
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To: curiosity
I defy you to find me a single Hawaiian state agency that does not accept a short form as sufficient to prove brith in Hawaii.

As referenced in my above-linked Reece article, the Hawaiian Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts only certain types of birth documentation as sufficient to establish eligibility for a Hawaiian home lands homestead lease:

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl

Primary Documents

The primary documents used to show you are of age and a qualified native Hawaiian are:

* A certified copy of Certificate of Birth;
* A certified copy of Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, including testimonies; or
* A certified copy of Certificate of Delayed Birth.

"Certification of Live Birth" is not in the list.

75 posted on 03/04/2009 5:50:35 PM PST by TChad
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