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Freeper advice needed Re: Dad's back gets broken in hospital

Posted on 02/17/2009 7:41:53 AM PST by TMD

Help, my dad entered a hospital in No. California (begins with a "K", rhymes with miser) in Jan with a bellyache (diverticulitis) a week and a half later he gets a "severe, concerning, troubling" fracture of T12. Though he already had some compression fractures, he was mobile prior to admission and for the first week and a half at the hospital. We believe the fracture was a traumatic one caused by "man-handling" him getting him in and out of bed. He's now totally bedridden, with a great deal of pain and we can't get any answers about prognosis or even whether the fracture is expected to heal. It's been 6 weeks since he was admitted and right now, the hospital is doing everything it can to move him to a 'skilled nursing/rehab place'. We haven't even had a spinal doc talk to us. We were told to have dad do physical therapy and in 4-6 weeks we can consult with a spinal doc.

I've filed a grievance already and I'm still trying to set up a roundtable with his docs. They are masters at deflection, ignoring us, not returning messages or simply being unavailable.

Questions - He wasn't bedridden to begin, does the hospital have any responsibility for his current condition? If he's bedridden for the rest of his life should the hospital be responsible for his care?


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To: TMD

Ask to speak to an interventional radiologist about a vertebroplasty. It is a pretty minor procedure that even some fairly debilitated patients who are not candidates for surgery can have. They insert a needle into the vertebra under X-ray guidance and squirt in a substance like Super Glue to hold the bone fragments together. It can provide immediate pain relief. My mom had it and is now pain free.


41 posted on 02/17/2009 10:27:28 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Jagermonster

Point well taken. It’s a situation to be handled carefully and with professional advise all the way around.


42 posted on 02/17/2009 10:36:38 AM PST by cdrw (Freedom and responsibility are inseparable)
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To: AmericanMade1776

His short term memory isn’t great. It’s hard to pin-point it to a specific incident but, we observed them laying his bed flat to adjust his position (or sittin ghim up straighter than he’s comfortable) when he was crying out in pain on more than one occasion. There were a number of days that they seemed to be handling him rougher than they should have, then, after the fracture occured, they kept telling us he was just being uncooperative when, in fact he was in excruciating pain.


43 posted on 02/17/2009 10:41:08 AM PST by TMD (Keep Planned Parenthood out of our schools!)
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To: ccmay

He was told 2 years ago that if he had a lot of pain this procedure could be done. Now, there’s a lot of pain and the word we get second-hand is that this is not ‘amenable’ to vertebroplasty.
Why not? We have no idea since we have yet to speak to a spine doc. Is there any other way to stabilize his spine? We have no idea since we have yet to speak to a spine doc. Is this fracture expected to heal? We have no idea since we have yet to speak to a spine doc. If it’s expected to heal then isn’t rolling him back and forth every two hours going to slow this process? We have no idea since we have yet to speak to a spine doc.

We were told by the hospitalist that IF he were a candidate for surgery/intervention, only then would we have a consult with a spine doc. Like I said we’re chasing our tails and still not getting any satisfactory answers to our questions.


44 posted on 02/17/2009 10:47:46 AM PST by TMD (Keep Planned Parenthood out of our schools!)
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To: snarky conservative

Most of us hate trial lawyers even IF we need one.


45 posted on 02/17/2009 10:51:07 AM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

99% of lawyers give the other 1% a bad name.


46 posted on 02/17/2009 10:52:05 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: TMD

I would INSIST on an interventional radiology consultation. The longer you wait the less likely the procedure is to work.


47 posted on 02/17/2009 11:42:10 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: cdrw

I hope it all works out for the best, and I wish your dad a speedy recovery.


48 posted on 02/17/2009 6:15:09 PM PST by Jagermonster (The 2009 Debt Stimulus: This time, it really is for the children.)
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To: TMD

I just hope you find some answers for your Dad and for you, it is a tough time. Sometimes, some of the medicine they are on, can cause their memory to be bad, that might be a good thing to check on, his medications, and see if they are causing his memory losses.


49 posted on 02/17/2009 8:53:21 PM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: TMD

All I can add is one more sad story -

A friend’s husband went to same Mizer with a K hospital, for an elective surgery. He came out of operation into his room, sleeping nicely. She, exhausted, left to go home and get sleep. His stitches came loose while she was away, and he died. He had rang for nurses, they did not respond and he bled to death. She beats herself up - had she been there, she could have grabbed a nurse.


50 posted on 02/21/2009 4:32:52 AM PST by SnarlinCubBear (Get Sarcasma - Comforting relief from the use of irony, mocking and conveying contempt)
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To: TMD

My dad went into a hospital in 2005 for evaluation of his medications, fell in the hospital and ended up with hip replacement surgery. The hospital did not care for him properly. Moved him out of the surgical ward when he could not walk, then expected him to walk to the bathroom, again he could not walk. They never did the right thing, didn’t care for him, released him to another care facility and didn’t even tell the care facility [where he was before his hospital admission] that he could not walk. He was left in a bed with no food or drink and couldn’t go to the bathroom for a whole weekend. Well, he did go to the bathroom sort of, but we won’t talk about that. Two days plus a little more. I raised a huge stink with the hospital and they told me to stuff it.

With the care facility, I told the charge nurse, and they did nothing to change anything and left him with no care. So Monday I called the administrator and raised a stink. They finally did something I guess so there wouldn’t be a murder charge. This is a midwest state.


51 posted on 02/21/2009 6:33:03 PM PST by daylilly
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