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To: Redcitizen

Wasn’t there a nearby Indian tribe called the Croatoans?

Just asking, I really did read this once.


24 posted on 02/01/2009 6:33:52 PM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My cartridges are lubricated with pig grease!")
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To: elcid1970

You got me. I read about that once too. But that was many years back. I haven’t kept up on the Eastern tribes. Plenty of tribess here in the Southwest to keep me busy. =)


26 posted on 02/01/2009 6:37:38 PM PST by Redcitizen (This tagline is 100% recycled from other taglines. It's "green")
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To: elcid1970

Yes, the Croatan Indians lived on southern part of Hatteras Island...Manteo, a Croatan, was go-between settlers and the Indians. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manteo_(Croatan)


27 posted on 02/01/2009 6:44:00 PM PST by Vendek
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To: elcid1970
There's a band of Indians called the Pechanga Band in the Pechanga Valley in San Diego County. The Valley was named by Jedediah Smith after "someplace" he'd heard about ~ it had meaning to Jedediah.

I believe I have discovered that place along the Pechanga Valley in NW Nikel Oblast near the Norway/Russia border.

Some of the earliest settlers in what is now the United States came from Nikel Oblast and were members of the Skolt Sa'ami tribe (which is down to 500 native speakers in the Old World, and may number as many as 2 million people in America ~ virtually none of whom know they are an ancient people called Skolt). Many settled around Nickel Mines Pennsylvania (and a gazillion other places with a Christmasy, or traditional Scandinavian motif name, e.g. Santa Claus, Christmas Valley, Deer Park, Elkins, Elkton, etc.)

Jedediah Smith would necessarily have had considerable contact with American Skolt.

Why I posted that bit of early settlement lore is because we face a similar problem with "Croatan" ~ a place named Croatan Island, a band of Indians at Croatan Island, next thing you know you have the Croatan Indians.

The Indians didn't name themselves Pechanga. The Indians didn't name themselves Croatan.

"River Avon" is yet another instance of this sort of thing ~ "Avon" means "river" in Welsh.

33 posted on 02/01/2009 7:31:27 PM PST by muawiyah
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