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Texas School Fires Coach for Winning Too Big: Gen. MacArthur Would Be Disgusted
Evil Conservative Radio ^ | 27 January 2009 | EC

Posted on 01/27/2009 9:14:14 AM PST by nysuperdoodle

I always thought coaches got fired for losing. On the same day he sent an email refusing to apologize for his team's success, a Texas high school girls' basketball coach was terminated. The coach, Micah Grimes, of Dallas' Covenant School, had come under fire for winning a game 100-0, making national news.

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To: nysuperdoodle

Running up the score is not sportsmanship, period...

Play 100% every down for the players but the coach should have been calling different sets.


61 posted on 01/27/2009 9:42:30 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Onerom99
The second stringers aren’t allowed to gather game experience using their teams appropriate strategy?

If you want to keep pressing, them put in the third stringers.

The coach did absolutely nothing wrong.

If it's true that he kept his first stringers in through the 70-0 mark, then the guy is a bully and an ass.

I don't have a problem with third-stringers [and even managers and water boys/girls] pressing and throwing up threes and playing their hearts out, but I have a real big problem with leaving the starters in and running up the score.

That's exceptionally bad sportsmanship.

62 posted on 01/27/2009 9:42:41 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: Freeper

where is anyone saying the game should be thrown?


63 posted on 01/27/2009 9:43:33 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: svcw
It is so ridiculous, I can not fathom the firing. What he is supposed to say “don't play your best, the other team might cry”.

High school sports aren't just about winning. They're supposed to teach sportsmanship.

A coach who racks up a 100-0 score isn't really teaching the values a high school sports program is trying to instill in its students. He created a whole bunch of bad publicity for this school, so it isn't suprising he was shown the door.

64 posted on 01/27/2009 9:44:21 AM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: RobRoy

“He did use the whole bench.”

Happens every basketball game you dont play startes for 40 minutes.. the question is was he trying for the century mark..


65 posted on 01/27/2009 9:44:34 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Mariebl
His total team size was 8 players. (Don't be confused by hearing that the losing team had 8 players: they both did.)

Okay, if that's true, then maybe I should retract some of my former comments.

This is such a bizarre situation that it might not conform to my pre-conceived notions of how these things ought to play themselves out.

66 posted on 01/27/2009 9:44:56 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: RobRoy; KarlInOhio

Don’t have a dog in this fight. Just posting a fact because you two were discussing subs.

As far as wearing the players out, according to the LOSING coach, the winners had a great point guard. Playing defense at half court the whole 2nd half, she would steal the ball, make a layup. Steal the ball, make a layup...she finished with 48. FWIW.


67 posted on 01/27/2009 9:45:10 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: N3WBI3

I think you have captured the point


68 posted on 01/27/2009 9:45:40 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: Onerom99

Chief? How!!!

I just saw the coach’s words about what happened. I’ve already admitted I had some facts wrong. But it sounds to me like some Freepers think the coach was wrong to pull back and not take the score to 150-0. I mean, 100-0 is obviously just like throwing the game!!!

Go back to my first comment, Bubba. The coach should NOT have been fired.


69 posted on 01/27/2009 9:46:34 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: gate2wire

“The Game. The game started like any other high school basketball game across the nation. The teams warm-up, coaches talk, the ball is tipped, and then the play begins. We started the game off with a full-court press. After 3 minutes into play, we had already reached a 25-0 lead. Like any rational thinking coach would do, I immediately stopped the full-court press, dropped into a 2-3 zone defense, and started subbing in my 3 bench players. This strategy continued for the rest of the game and allowed the Dallas Academy players to get the ball up the court for a chance to score. The second half started with a score of 59-0. Seeing that we would win by too wide of a margin, running down the clock was the only logical course of action left. Contrary to the articles, there were only a total of four 3-point baskets made; three in the first quarter, and only one in the third quarter. I continued to sub in bench players, play zone defense, and run the clock for the rest of the game. We played fair and honorably within the rules and in the presence of the parents, coaches, and athletic directors for both Covenant School and Dallas Academy. “

If this is true (not the accounts from the game) then perhaps he was not that far off..


70 posted on 01/27/2009 9:48:14 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: RobRoy

Mercy is Christian..


71 posted on 01/27/2009 9:50:14 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: jalisco555
I'm wide awake. Sportsmanship also means refraining from deliberately humiliating an obviously overmatched opponent.

Victor Davis Hanson wrote a piece about the original [classical Greek] meaning of the word Hubris - apparently it involved a warrior standing over his near-vanquished foe, and taunting & humiliating him before delivering the final, mortal wound. [I tried to google for Hanson's piece, but couldn't find it.]

And apparently the Greeks felt that this was a particularly egregious sin.

72 posted on 01/27/2009 9:50:19 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: N3WBI3

Whole letter from coach here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2172117/posts


73 posted on 01/27/2009 9:50:46 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: Freeper
Me either. I remember in elementary school (I was tether ball champ) a school wide competition that I was the best in the school. Tromped a boy. The school did not give me the trophy because ‘boys don't lose to girls’.
If you don't play to win, then don't play. I do think we need to teach to be as gracious winner and loser. I do not think we should teach gloating.
My grandson was on a basketball team that won every game in this season 40-75 points, even using third string players. I was shocked at how they were trashed in the press and by the high school alumni. The coach basically told the young men to ignore everyone and keep on winning.
I am sicken by the attitude that there is some virtue in not playing your best so the other guy doesn't feel bad. There is only virtue in playing the best you can, win or lose. It seems your DIL should have practiced more. ;-) But really he probably would have been angry if you through a game, he would have known.
74 posted on 01/27/2009 9:51:31 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: N3WBI3
If this is true (not the accounts from the game) then perhaps he was not that far off..

Yeah, I agree with you - having read that, I'd go back and delete some of my previous comments if the FreeRepublic software allowed it.

75 posted on 01/27/2009 9:51:58 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: N3WBI3

>>Mercy is Christian.<<

Yes it is. In the right time and place.

A sports arena is specifically neither, regarding the score.

Another example: Is it mercyful for a professor to give a failing student a B?


76 posted on 01/27/2009 9:52:23 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee; Onerom99

This is *not* football. You dont have ‘strings’ you have your starters and a bench (in this case a bench of three people). The bench plays *every* game because you cant play more than 10-20 minutes of basketball without having to catch your breath..


77 posted on 01/27/2009 9:54:38 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: RobRoy

“A sports arena is specifically neither, regarding the score.”

Im sorry where, exactly, in the Bible does it say where we should and should not show mercy?


78 posted on 01/27/2009 9:57:22 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: All

According to the coach it was 25-0 in the first three minutes. If he had continued at that pace, it may have been 200-0 or more. From what he said, he pulled his punches as much as he could, but what can you do if you are committed to playing a full basketball game with this kind of opponent? What is he supposed to tell his players? “Make bad passes and miss the goal!”


79 posted on 01/27/2009 10:06:07 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

“Yeah, I agree with you - having read that, I’d go back and delete some of my previous comments if the FreeRepublic software allowed it.”

I don’t know if I would be so hasty in doing that. I was not at the game so I do not know exactly what went on, but this coach obviously has motivation to spin this information in his favor. I believe I read that once his team reached the 100 point mark there was approximately 4 minutes left in the game and that his team did not score again. If this is true, than it is obvious to me that he did not do all he could to not run up the score prior to that point.

I am a long time HS boys coach who posted my feeling on this situation in a thread yesterday. I won’t repeat myself other to say that there is never a good reason to humiliate your opponent, and that there are many ways to manage a game like this to make sure that doesn’t happen.


80 posted on 01/27/2009 10:06:28 AM PST by Batman11
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