Posted on 01/27/2009 8:36:55 AM PST by PercivalWalks
It's hard to believe, but the head of child support collections for Idaho says that unemployment is the "'unexpected' silver lining to Idaho's economic malaise." Why? Because it's easy to garnish dads' unemployment checks!
This is the typical attitude of child support enforcement officials--their job is to collect as much money as possible, regardless of whether the dad is poor or homeless (not to mention if he has been unfairly denied the right to be a part of his children's lives or isn't even the father of the child). Federal incentives which reimburse states for their child support enforcement operations feed the problem, since they also largely ignore these issues.
From Higher Idaho joblessness yields child-support cash (Idaho Statesman, 1/25/09):
BOISE, Idaho (AP) - Idaho's rising jobless rate is apparently helping the state collect child support, as Department of Health and Welfare collectors garnish unemployment benefits.
Director Richard Armstrong told the Joint Finance-Appropriations budget writing committee Tuesday that rising collections from deadbeat dads have been an "unexpected" silver lining to Idaho's economic malaise.
Some who historically haven't paid child support have now filed to collect unemployment benefits after joblessness more than doubled in a year to 6.6%, the highest in more than 20 years.
Armstrong says his employees can more easily garnish deadbeats' state checks - including to cover payments that are months in arrears.
How long this boost lasts is unclear. State unemployment benefits generally end after a maximum of 26 weeks.
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Not upset in the least, just disgusted at what passes for a "man" these days. By the way, would you like some cheese with that whine?
Just as I have been admonishing the men on this thread to be more selective in who they choose to be the mother of their children the same goes for the women. When your sister opened her heart and legs to a bum who would consent to an abortion of his own child and then abandon both the baby and the mother she made a very serious mistake with real grown-up consequences.
If you’re disgusted at what passes for a man these days, then you must cringe every morning when you look in the mirror.
Again, you’re going with the insults. You can’t refute or debate, so, you resort to name calling. So, again, who’s the child?
I win, and you’re a sanctimonious twit. In other words, a typical self-proclaimed “Christian.”
Hey, you’ve already called me “childish,” so, not like insulting you is going to change your opinion of me.
No wonder she dumped you.
Oh, help, you’ve cut me to the quick...my spirit is crushed beyond all repair. Such clever insults, sir..please, I beg you, no more....
That’s the best you can do? Good grief, you need to take remedial flame 101.
And I’m sick and tired of “men” who haven’t pulled their heads out of the sand since the seventies.
Surprise! People buy Japanese cars cause they’re built better, Archie!
Here’s another shocker for you; all your chest pounding pontificating doesn’t make you any less p****y whipped.
Women get to have their cake, and eat it too, because “men” like you won’t get current, but won’t shut up, either.
So your kid has a vested interest in the status quo...that explains a lot.
Those are one-sided and unrepresentative, please don't apply them to anyone here.
Trite cliches about what people “should” do are meaningless. The issue here is what is being compelled.
Your sister’s choice not to avail herself of the system has less than nothing to do with the injustice of the system.
Your trip to Home Depot has nothing to do with Real Estate law.
“Why should father’s not be responsible for their offspring?” Her body: her choice.
Give me a break. Go admonish the divorce lawyers on retainer. Go admonish the liberal judges. Go admonish the boneheaded legislatures.
What is it with people who can not see it is fundamentally unjust to tell a woman she has the entirety of her pregnancy to decide whether or not to be a parent, but a man is supposed to make that decision before she’s even pregnant.
IF
If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you But make allowance for their doubting too, If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or being lied about, don't deal in lies, Or being hated, don't give way to hating, And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream--and not make dreams your master, If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same; If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken, And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings And never breath a word about your loss; If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To serve your turn long after they are gone, And so hold on when there is nothing in you Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch, If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you; If all men count with you, but none too much, If you can fill the unforgiving minute With sixty seconds' worth of distance run, Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!
--Rudyard Kipling
.....or you can be a whiney bitch and blame it all on others.
Did you quote Kipling’s contemporaries in the field of physics to them too, or are you just a “social” luddite?
sunshine and lollipops. Throw in some dumb luck for good measure.
If, by your reference to the British textile workers movement against change and industrialization, you are asserting that the belief that one is fully responsible for the consequences of all of ones own actions and in actions is arcane and obsolete then you can accurately call me "old school".
"Did you quote Kipling’s contemporaries in the field of physics to them too?"
Yes, discussions of Lord Kelvin, Ludwig Bolzman, Marie Curie, Albert Einstein, Niels Bohr, Ernest Rutherford and a number of other prominent physicists who were contemporaries of Kipling have been discussed frequently.
No, I mean someone too parochial to notice the fundamental landscape has changed around them, and too chauvanistic to allow that their analysis is no longer valid.
You want to play tit for tat citations: fine. It’s not going to change the fact you argue for an America where one class of citzen is made subservient to another class with the power of the state enforcing it.
Accepting that I am responsible for my condition and environment has allowed me to successfully manage my life without the pitfalls and pratfalls you have bemoaned. So tell me again, how's your way working for you?
Mine is working fine. Still married to the first wife after twenty years. (who will probably make vp within five years) Live in a five bedroom on a golf course. Expecting our first child by adoption within six months.
The difference between us is I am not p***y whipped, and can recognize injustice even when it happens to someone else.
So you believe in “choice”? Sorry you are on the wrong website to be talking about a baby as part of a mother’s body. A baby growing inside a mother is another person. The law may allow a mother to kill her unborn child but that doesnt make it right. The issue that I was speaking to had NOTHING to do with a broken system and EVERYTHING to do with personal responsibility for decisions that you make. A man who fathers a child IS responsible for that child whether or not he chooses to BE a man and actually fulfill his responsibility is another thing. If men and women alike would grow up and take care of their children, there would be no need for a system.
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