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You can NEVER Separate the Republican Party From the Conservative Movement
January 23, 2009 | Welcome2thejungle

Posted on 01/23/2009 10:06:00 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle

While it is true that there are many people who consider themselves more conservative than Republican (like me)and others who are more Republican than they are conservative, the fact remains that the Conservative Movement and the Republican Party are joined at the hip. Fortunately, with a few exceptions like the pair of GOP senators from Maine, liberal Republicans are virtually an extinct species. This trend will continue as long as the gravity of the GOP continues to shift towards the South and the West.

I know some conservative activists have long been fed up with the GOP and have look toward alternatives such as the miniscule Libertarian, American Independent, and Reform Parties. If history is any guide, such individuals will be relegated to the sidelines and Twilight Zone of American politics. We have always had pretty much a two party system--that's where the action is, like it or not.

Let me make an analogy if I may. I am a practicing Catholic. Several years ago I was stunned and appalled by the size and scope of the pedophile priest scandal which shook our church to its very core. Rather than leaving the Church in total disgust, I decided to get MORE active in it and do whatever I could to rehabilitate it. I have since become a 4th degree Knight of Columbus and a eucharistic minister at my church and I am involved in other church related activities as well. That was my instinct. Not to walk away, but to try to make things better and turn things around.

I dare say we conservatives should adopt the same attitude towards the Republican Party. While it is true that we still do have RINOs among our ranks, the GOP remains by and large a fairly conservative political party with a rich tradition and history much like the Catholic Church itself which is the oldest Christian church on earth tracing its lineage to SS Peter and Paul.

It is true that the Catholic Church has been beset by scandal in its long 2,0000 year history and the recent pedophile priest scandal was among the most horrendous. But it is also true that all institutions, no matter how great or glorious or ancient or well intentioned, are inhabited by flesh and blood sinful humans. Wicked men can be found in all institutions, the Church, the military, the Party, corporate America, the police department, you name it. One difference between conservatives and liberals is this: All too often the liberals will try to use a scandal to bring down or weaken a great institution such as the Catholic Church or the Republican Party. In my home town of Los Angeles I personally witnessed the liberals destroy one of the finest big city police departments in the entire nation over one unfortunate incident. Now the LAPD has been effectively marginalized to such an extent that our police officers cannot even inquire if a suspect is in this country legally when making an arrest.

The simple fact remains that like it or not, the Republican Party is the only national institution of its size capable of effectively opposing the radical socialist agenda of BHO and the Democrats in Congress. The question is this: Should we build up the Republican Party and make it an effective fighting force against the forces of Obamaism, or should we head of for the exits an go our own separate ways? I myself could no longer leave the Republican Party than I could bear to leave the Catholic Church. I've decided to stick it out and fight with every fiber of my being and every ounce of strength I have left. What about you?


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To: Baynative

Already joined...yesterday....


41 posted on 01/23/2009 11:21:14 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Baynative

Thank you for sharing thenulist.com. I checked it out. This is precisely the type of pro-active, positive action I am looking for. I like this. This is a start. We can build from here. Thank you so much sharing your positive ideas. We need MORE of this!


42 posted on 01/23/2009 11:24:50 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Welcome2thejungle
I hate to rain on your parade, but...

Because you are a Republican and a Conservative, you are extrapolating that most of the OTHER Republicans must also be Conservatives, just like you. You couldn't be more wrong. The Republican party has been leaning so far to the left, that the Republicans and the Democrats are practically the same party. You will find the same Liberals, that we both despise, in both parties. Wake up to reality and see what really IS, instead of what you would like it to be, or what you imagine it to be.

44 posted on 01/23/2009 11:26:00 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Lurker

I think Baynative is on the right track. Check out www.thenulist.com


45 posted on 01/23/2009 11:32:31 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Baynative

It would also be smart to link this organization with the Falcon Party. Also ping “pissant” about this organization, if pissant doesn’t already know about it.


46 posted on 01/23/2009 11:41:47 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Most grassroots Republicans on the volunteer level are profoundly conservative people—at least on the political campaign’s I’ve worked on. I also once served on the board of my county GOP party organization. And believe me, the average party volunteer at the ground level is quite conservative. And most members of our state party organization are quite conservative as well. There IS a big disconnect between Arnold and the state GOP in CA.

Conservative forces took control of the Republican Party in 1964 and 1980. We can do it again. The closer you get to the grassroots activists, the more conservative the Party is.


47 posted on 01/23/2009 11:42:20 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Baynative
"Visit our site.."

Hey, thanks a lot for the link! I will be there!

48 posted on 01/23/2009 11:44:16 AM PST by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: Welcome2thejungle; Baynative
I'll check it out, but I think you're both p****** into the wind.

L

49 posted on 01/23/2009 11:46:08 AM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: papertyger
"..missing one component...advertising."

Amen to that, I agree whole-heartedly.

Now all we have to do is figure out how to do it.

50 posted on 01/23/2009 11:46:22 AM PST by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

No more RINOS indeed.

No more Vichy Republicans.


51 posted on 01/23/2009 11:48:35 AM PST by alarm rider ("We laugh at honor, and are shocked to find traitors in our midst" C.S. Lewis)
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To: Welcome2thejungle
Most grassroots Republicans on the volunteer level are profoundly conservative people

Doesn't mean beans.

Remember what happened to Boxer the horse in "Animal Farm?" That's what the "grassroots volunteers" are...

52 posted on 01/23/2009 11:50:34 AM PST by papertyger
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To: Welcome2thejungle
I'm going to fight by not voting or supporting rinos.

That means no generic Republican national donations, as they will surely use the money to support rinos.

Supporting individual candidates who are conservatives or strong Republicans is the only way to get the Party back on track and winning elections.

53 posted on 01/23/2009 11:50:34 AM PST by RJL
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To: Lurker
"..starve the Fed beast."

We're too late for that, Lurker.

The Fed has been printing money hand over fist with no break in the forseeable future.

They have printed way more than what is being talked about.

Trillions.

54 posted on 01/23/2009 11:52:07 AM PST by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
"..Republicans and the Democrats are practically the same party.."

And therein lies the real problem.

55 posted on 01/23/2009 11:54:33 AM PST by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: Welcome2thejungle

“You can NEVER Separate the Republican Party From the Conservative Movement”

We can’t? The Republican Party already did.


57 posted on 01/23/2009 12:03:45 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: Designer

I disagree. Don’t you see a difference between someone like Sen. Barbara Boxer D-CA and someone like Sen. Jim Inhofe R-OK?


59 posted on 01/23/2009 12:06:07 PM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Baynative

Yes we are....time to clean house....I will vote ‘RAT before I vote RINO......BYE BYE RINOs...DON’T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT.


60 posted on 01/23/2009 12:06:51 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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