He may actually have been divinely conceived, Nobody really knows.
Posted on 01/12/2009 5:34:10 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
I'm not aware of his having done this. None of the suits actually name him as a defendent, and as far as I'm aware he's never filed a brief in any of the cases. So again, where is the evidence for this? Is there any, or are you just repeating what you've seen other people post?
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA
PHILIP J. BERG, ESQUIRE, :
Plaintiff :
vs. CIVIL ACTION NO: 08-cv- 04083
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, ET AL, :
Defendants :
ORDER
ON DEFENDANT’S, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATIC
NATIONAL COMMITTEE’S MOTION TO DISMISS PLAINTIFF’S
COMPLAINT PURSUANT TO RULE 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6)
Now, did he respond? Did any lawyer of his spend a billable hour filing a brief in response?
What is? Why?
"You are evading the what is explicit in the U.S. Constitution and it is not misleading."
I haven't evaded anything. I am directly addressing what is in the constitution. If there's something else you are trying to say you need to spell it out.
No, we have a ad hominem logical fallacy. Rather that engage the issues, attack the person.
The problem is I'm not an Obama supporter, the birth certifcate truthers are just wrong.
The Plaintiff is Berg and the motion they are requesting to dismiss is Berg's request for Obama/DNC to produce an Original Birth Certificate!
And you can't defend Obama as being Natural Born because he is even evading that question! How can you defend that requirement if Obama himself wont?
One is certainly stretching to make that claim. The court is never going to say that just because she was young when she had Obama, she was not a natural born citizen.
and then he was adopted and registered as a legal citizen of Indonesia at a time when his American citizenship had to be renounced in order to do so...
Except he was too young to renounce his citizenship at the time, so I'm quite sure the court isn't going to consider that as carrying any weight.
He then traveled under his Indonesian passport through college and never naturalized as a US citizen after...???
I'm not familiar enough with laws regarding passports to comment on this. But I would be surprised if the court looks at this as proving Obama is not a natural born citizen.
Don't hold your breath waiting for any court to agree with the claims of the lawsuits.
His mother was born in the U.S. and lived here continually until some time after he was born. The court is never going to claim she wasn't a natural born citizen of the U.S. at the time of Obama's birth just because she was young when she had him. That would mean that we have a whole lot of children that have been, are being and will be born who would have to be classified as not natural born.
Every other argument I've seen (except, perhaps the fact that he traveled during college with something other than a U.S. passport) has been equally silly.
I don't know the rules regarding passports, but I doubt the court is going to claim Obama is ineligible to run for President on the sole basis of the passport he traveled on.
The poster you replied to was not questioning her citizenship, but to her age when Obama was born. And what they were point to was her age if Obama was not born on US soil.
You need to refer to the laws that determine if a child born to a US citizen overseas is a citizen (this is what the poster you replied to was addressing - of course the poster was assuming that Obama was not born on US soil - which I doubt is true at this point.)
Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock:
A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.
Omama's mother would have had to be 19 at the time of his birth - she was 18.
I seriously doubt this is going to carry any weight with the court.
And I tend to agree with you - it is highly doubtful that Obama was not born on U.S. soil. Those who are pushing to have him declared ineligible to run can't even decide what country he was supposedly born in. (I've seen both Kenya and Britain discussed.) Someone would have to have extremely solid proof, and such evidence hasn't been produced as yet.
The question is, why wont he release it if there is not a problem? Could it be that the original has his race listed as Caucasian? (just posed as something to ponder).
There is something that is causing him not release it.
Is doing the typical liberal tactict of - fingers in ears and shouting La La La la La La La.
Not until he gets his Civilian Defense Force installed.
You wouldn't accept truth if it bit you.
This had absolutely no legal authority, it was a in fact an effort to legitimize Obama's status. Fortunately, or unfortunately, the reference that would have included protection for Obama was eliminated before vote. This was just a gentleman's agreement that had no legal affect.
He may actually have been divinely conceived, Nobody really knows.
And this makes you feel free? Good luck.
What 'this' are you talking about?
I would expect the court to require those who are challenging Obama's eligibility to produce some evidence that he was not born in Hawaii. If the court turns that around and require Obama to produce some original document (i.e. birth certificate), I'd be quite surprised. Many people do not have an original birth certificate any more.
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