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To: YHAOS
BroJoeK: "”. . . among religious denominations, "theistic evolutionism" is taught by the Catholic Church, most "mainline" Protestant denominations, and Jewish groups.”

YHAOS: "What do you mean “taught”? Do they spend twenty minutes each week in Conformation or Sunday School teaching something called “theistic evolutionism.”? Or at the Wednesday night prayer gatherings? My grandson attends a parochial school, and they teach Science, not “theistic evolutionism.” And there’s none of this business that Evolution somehow proves that: 1) No gods worth having exist; 2) no life after death exists; 3) no ultimate foundation for ethics exists; 4) no ultimate meaning in life exists; and 5) human free will is nonexistent (per Dawkins, Weinberg, Provine, Pinker, Gould, Sanger, Tooley, Monod, Lewontin, Sagan, Hauser, Stenger, et al). As a matter of doctrine a good number of denominations may, indeed, subscribe to the validity of science, but when certain religious, philosophical, or moral conclusions are derived from science facts, that’s when the fur starts to fly."

Again, I'm doubtful if you understand what you're really arguing against.

"Theistic evolutionism" is the church doctrine of most Christian denominations. Simply put, it does not in any way deny the science of evolution, but assigns to evolution, along with every other natural process, the workings of the Hand of God. Put another way: evolution is God's plan.

Of course I understand your concerns -- that evolution theory supports atheists' claims that God was not involved. Well, that's their opinion, but most people, including most scientists can see the Hand of God working in evolution just as it does in everything else.

1,578 posted on 02/01/2009 7:13:32 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
Again, I'm doubtful if you understand what you're really arguing against.

More smoke. I know exactly what I’m talking about. That’s what bothers you.

Of course I understand your concerns

You understand nothing about me. You dare not understand anything about me.

1,588 posted on 02/01/2009 1:02:59 PM PST by YHAOS
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