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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
"Ernst Haeckel and Natural-Scientific Materialism , V.I. Lenin"

The word "science" goes back to ancient times. It has always been that branch of philosophy which deals with the natural material world, not the supernatural. Supernatural comes under metaphysics = "beyond physics".

I know, ECO, you desperately want to turn this into an argument of "Science versus Christianity." Then you could zero your rhetorical weapons and happily fire for effect, right?

But I'll remind you that the vast majority of Christians belong to denominations which have long since accepted the school of thought called "theistic evolution," which is also what I believe.

1,461 posted on 01/26/2009 5:30:36 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
The word "science" goes back to ancient times.

But your kind of science goes back to Marx's time.

1,462 posted on 01/26/2009 5:34:50 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: BroJoeK
The word "science" goes back to ancient times. It has always been that branch of philosophy which deals with the natural material world, not the supernatural. Supernatural comes under metaphysics = "beyond physics".

Science is a branch of PHILOSOPHY, YES!!!!! Now who holds the copyright? How ancient? Millions and millions of years ago? Or maybe a few thousand years ago?

I know, ECO, you desperately want to turn this into an argument of "Science versus Christianity." Then you could zero your rhetorical weapons and happily fire for effect, right?

How do you know? Who told you? Any claim made that Christ, 'you know' Christianity, has Christ's origin coming from a hot steaming pot of primordial soup is against Christ. But hey be happy, your legally required indoctrination in the minds of mush over the past 40 + years are now totally and completely in control of government. Remember the 40 and under COLLEGE educated crowd overwhelmingly voted for liberal rule. YOU WON, did you NOT get the news?

But I'll remind you that the vast majority of Christians belong to denominations which have long since accepted the school of thought called "theistic evolution," which is also what I believe.

You think this was not foretold that would be the case? Christ said let no man deceive you... even those calling themselves Christians.

Oh and just so you know before you respond, I have NO doubt this earth is very very very old. Flesh man, however, beginning can be dated, and while the substances used to form the flesh vessels have commonality even from your great apes their purposes for being have NO commonality.

1,463 posted on 01/26/2009 5:49:44 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: BroJoeK
The word "science" goes back to ancient times. It has always been that branch of philosophy which deals with the natural material world, not the supernatural. Supernatural comes under metaphysics = "beyond physics".

Actually, the word "science" comes from the Latin word scientia, from scient-, sciens having knowledge, from present participle of scire to know. (source: Merriam Webster)

You are correct, however, that the word science has been hijacked by phylosophers who which to redefine just as you have stated above, which is more accurately called materialism or naturalism. That is the phylosophy that all that cannot be known scientifically can be explained by purely natural processes.

But I'll remind you that the vast majority of Christians belong to denominations which have long since accepted the school of thought called "theistic evolution," which is also what I believe.

Consensus does not constitute evidence.
1,466 posted on 01/26/2009 7:18:26 AM PST by Sopater (I'm so sick of atheists shoving their religion in my face.)
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