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To: BroJoeK

[[Especially in highly technical complex subjects, there’s just no way the average citizen can distinguish truth from fraud]]

Sure htere is- We know huff and puff when we see it & know how to refute such fluff- it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see through the assumptions and claims that simply do NOT follow hte evidnece.

[[In those cases, only other experts in the field are really qualified to evaluate a scientist’s work.]]

That’s simply not true- again, anyone can look at hte evidnece and see whether it is scientifically supported OR if it’s just more claims that have no evidence to bakc htem up

[[And peer-review has another benefit: if you can convince your peers that your conclusions are valid, they can become your fan club, and help promote your ideas.]]

ONLY IF you don’t deviate from naturalism- the A priori belief in naturalism must be protecte at all costs- EVEN if it means ignoring those that bring conclusive evidence agaisnt hte claims- You can sit htere and pretend there isn’t an extreme bias against scientists who deviate fro mnaturalism- but the fact is you’re simpyl wrong-


1,344 posted on 01/10/2009 12:30:54 PM PST by CottShop
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To: CottShop
"ONLY IF you don’t deviate from naturalism- the A priori belief in naturalism must be protecte at all costs- EVEN if it means ignoring those that bring conclusive evidence agaisnt hte claims- You can sit htere and pretend there isn’t an extreme bias against scientists who deviate fro mnaturalism- but the fact is you’re simpyl wrong-"

You have no clue how ridiculous your words look, do you? Are you even sober? Do you care about your looks? Well then straighten up, fellow -- you look like a fool and a charlatan.

The fact is, science IS naturalism, period. If you don't like naturalism, then by definition you cannot be a scientist. You could be a philosopher or theologian or something else, but science by definition deals with the natural world, not the supernatural.

Creationism / Intelligent Design requires the totally unspecified intervention of a now undefined but unnatural factor -- a Creator or some Intelligence. But there's no basis in science for it, and that's why it's not science.

1,349 posted on 01/10/2009 8:48:41 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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