[BroJoeK]

"Hi Bob. I am not about blowing my own horn, BroJoe just keeps spouting that anyone that does not agree with evolution doesn’t know jack about science. When actually, some of us may know so much about science and math, that evolution does not pass the test. Your point is well taken: logic is a beautiful thing."

But, of course, you don't know that much, and your posts clearly show it.

Can I ask you to think seriously and logically for just a minute? Listen up:

There are three great denials loose in the world today (you may count others, let's look at these three):

Those who deny the holocaust.
Those who deny evolution.
Those who deny global warming.

Now, consider that of the three, only global warming has a large number of serious working scientists who have studied the matter in great depth and published peer-reviewed scientific articles which say, in effect: wait a minute, AlGore is full of BS.

So ANYONE who wishes to argue against global warming can always reference his arguments back to some recognized scientific study. Point is, global warming is ultimately an argument among SCIENTISTS.

But nothing like that is true with either holocaust or evolution denial. In those "debates" there are NO, ZERO, ZIP, NADA serious & recognized historians or scientists who support the deniers' positions.

So people who CLAIM they reject evolution on scientific grounds are LIARS, and sorry, but that's all there is to it.

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

There are three great denials loose in the world today (you may count others, let's look at these three):

To your list of three, add a fourth:

The denial of final causes (teleology.)