Posted on 12/30/2008 3:42:31 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
Information scientist, author and evangelist, Dr Werner Gitt, a close friend of CMI, told us that on 23 October 2008 he was subjected to the most strident opposition he had ever encountered...
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Ordained preachers? From the pulpit?
I don’t know any pastors that waste time on Sunday mornings preaching about the age of the earth.
Do you feel every word in the Bible is literal?
And do you feel the Sun orbits the Earth?
Really?
Perhaps you should read up on Young Earth Creationism.
http://www.jcsm.org/MISC/MilesCreation.htm
Ordained preachers? From the pulpit?
I don’t know any pastors that waste time on Sunday mornings preaching about the age of the earth.
I never heard of a preacher preach from the pulpit that the sun orbits the earth.
I never heard a preacher say that gossiping and lying are OK.
And you’ve heard preachers preach this from the pulpit?
You know some of those links take you to old earth creation sites?
I assumed that your preacher told you that gossiping and lying are OK as you have exhibited that behavior on multiple occasions.
Yes. I don’t believe in hiding information.
But it would have been humanly impossible for you to watch even 5 percent of any of the sermons that I linked to.
Please provide sources to back up your statement.
While I still have never heard any preachers preach about the age of the earth, or creation in general, myself, the links you provide show that some do some where.
As for the other two questions....
I never heard of a preacher preach from the pulpit that the sun orbits the earth.
I never heard a preacher say that gossiping and lying are OK.
Got any sources for those?
You lie and gossip yet appear to claim that you are a Christian.
I can either assume that your preacher has said such behavior is acceptable or that you are not following major portions of your religious belief.
Which one is it.
And why do you keep refusing to say if the Earth goes around the Sun?
I have repeatable up thread.
You have said that I am another poster - this is a lie.
You have messaged other users talking about me being another poster - that is gossip.
Looking at the evidence in someone's posting history to determine whether or not they're likely to be a retread is like the sorts of methods by which one evaluates the fossil record to conclude that evolution is a fact.
You know. Looking at the evidence and deducing from the evidence.
If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and walks like a duck, what do you think someone is going to think that bird is? An eagle? A hummingbird?
The problem is, you're stuck. If you were formerly posting as dimensio, you can't admit it because that would result in the immediate nuking of your account, so we would expect you to deny it.
We all know that, so you're going to have a hard time convincing anyone because of the weight of the evidence against you; mountains of evidence.
While it is theoretically possible that two people should have so much posting history that is so similar, it's highly improbable.
Actually running my posts and the posts of the two people I have been accused of being through multiple comparative analysis filters will show that we aren’t the same people.
And yes I have done this - textual analysis is a hobby of mine.
And If I might analysis you for a moment - you appear to be blinded with a hate for those two other users that simply can not be healthy - you speak of mountains of evidence when none exists. People with similar levels of education and training tend to write approximately the same way. With a large enough sample size one can determine with a reasonable degree of accuracy a great many things about the writer.
I really truly think that you are just upset that you aren’t able to get a rise out of me, that you can’t push me into breaking the rules. Debate isn’t what you desire - you simply want to have an echo chamber that echos all your ideas while ridiculing anyone who dares think differently.
“While it is theoretically possible that two people should have so much posting history that is so similar, it’s highly improbable.”
What am I missing here? What posting history do they have in common? I’m willing to listen if you present the evidence.
“How do you determine if you’re a Christian though?”
Where are you heading with this?
Force becomes violence.“Can you highlight the portions that constitute the calls for violence?” --DevNet“I wasn’t aware that Dawkins had ever advocated the use of force to stop debate. Can you provide an example of this behavior?” --DevNet“He goes much further than that.
http://telicthoughts.com/richard-dawkins-and-child-abuse/” --GodGunsGuts
I have not monitored your postings, so I have no idea. I will say that ten people can see the same thing and you will get ten different stories. I believe that it is not normal to be so similar. Like I said, I have not monitored your posting. I am only commenting that you could have ten witnesses and receive ten different stories.
I think we are pretty far off topic here. I could careless who you are. I want to see a debate on creationism and evolution.
Another FRepper and I had talked about dark matter. She wanted me to bring this up to the board. I said, the atheist will reject this immediate and it wont be considered. I guess it is kinda like the same way atheist say we reject scientific data if it does not fit our way of thinking. If you have not heard of dark matter, Dr. Zwicky came up with the theory in the 1930s. Have you ever heard of dark matter? Some scientist think that dark matter could be God. The invisible God: It is present in everything in the universe.
And this is me thinking: when Einstein talks about changing the fabric of space and time, could this be the changing of dark matter? I am thinking along these lines: God is space and time. Space and time is present everywhere. Space and time can change too. For instance, time can slow down or speed up. BTW: what is the speed of dark :-) Dark matter could be another dimension of God or God in His complete form. The theory is that dark matter is present in everything in the universe. If dark matter is God, this is how God is present in you and I.
The Hubble telescope is showing an unknown matter clumping up at the edges of the Universe. Some Scientist say that this is dark matter and this is the beginning of time. The Hubble is showing the universe expanding in all four directions from the the Milky Way. The funny thing is, the stars are not expanding further away from each other. If all of the universe is expanding the stars would be getting further away from each other as they expand. Some Scientist say there is another force stronger then gravity that is holding the universe together. They think it is the dark matter that is doing this job.
Some Christians reject dark matter as being God because they feel that God is spirit not matter. I feel that I am not worthy to limit God's power. If God wants to be matter, God could be matter without any problem.
This is theory and I think worthy of debate. P> What say you?
“How do you determine if you’re a Christian though?”
“Where are you heading with this?”
Merely exploring your ideas of the definition of Christian/Christianity. You asked something about being a good Christian and creation in Genesis.
Backatcha....
Leviticus 19:16 – “Do not go about spreading slander among your people. Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor’s life. I am the Lord.” (NIV)
Romans 1:29 – “They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips.” (NIV)
1 Timothy 5:13 – “Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying things they ought not to.”
I don't lose sleep over insignificant stuff like that. It doesn't bother me. Don't give yourself too much credit.
Just read through both of them. Those are the only posting histories in existence.
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