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1 posted on 12/29/2008 9:36:04 PM PST by unspun
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To: BonRad; STARWISE; LucyT; MHGinTN; BP2; Frantzie; CaribouCrossing; DouglasKC; Cicero

FYI. IMHO, the likely reason that Obama has invested $1M in hiding his Hawaiian birth certificate is that he is thereby danged wherever he was born. Something that even Anthony Kennedy may be compelled to observe.


2 posted on 12/29/2008 9:39:29 PM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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Anyone can put anything on the Internet, and nothing is proved. Okenyan’s argument is that he doesn’t have to prove he is a US citizen, because he is one. Before this fraud is through, a lot of other illegals will be claiming the same thing. He’s making a joke out of the Constitution, and the joke will eventually be on the dupes who have bought into his con job.


5 posted on 12/29/2008 10:14:23 PM PST by pallis
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his Hawaiian birth certificate ostensibly demonstrates that Barack Hussein Obama I is his father. While not a new revelation that would become compelling procedural evidence that he is not a natural born Citizen and is therefore not constitutionally permitted to be U.S. president.

His father could be Porky Pig and it doesn't matter. The key is WHERE he was born.

7 posted on 12/29/2008 10:27:18 PM PST by plain talk
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2. I have reviewed the attached affidavit posted on the internet from “Ron Polarik,” [PDF] who has declined to provide his name because of a number of death threats he has received. After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the “Daily Kos,” the Obama Campaign, “Factcheck.org” and others cannot be relied upon as genuine. Mr. Polarik raises issues concerning the COLB that I can affirm.
8 posted on 12/29/2008 10:30:28 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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Just release the full birth certificate! Bring this to a close. Make it come to an end. Stop, already!

All we are saying is
Give surcease a chance

10 posted on 12/29/2008 10:45:01 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Just shows the Hawaii courts are in the tank for Obama. they denied the case saying it was filed under the wrong statute. Here is the one they said it should have been filed under:

11-113(e):

(e) If the applicant, or any other party, individual, or group with a candidate on the presidential ballot, objects to the finding of eligibility or disqualification the person may, not later than 4:30 p.m. on the fifth day after the finding, file a request in writing with the chief election officer for a hearing on the question. A hearing shall be called not later than 4:30 p.m. on the tenth day after the receipt of the request and shall be conducted in accord with chapter 91. A decision shall be issued not later than 4:30 p.m. on the fifth day after the conclusion of the hearing.

So according to the court in Hawaii, he could have only made a challenge on the fifth day after finding of eligibility. That would have been when Obama filed his papers to be on the ballot - before his name actually appeared on the ballot.

Now this is what Keyes filed under:

11-172

Contests for cause; generally. With respect to any election, any candidate, or qualified political party directly interested, or any thirty voters of any election district, may file a complaint in the supreme court. The complaint shall set forth any cause or causes, such as but not limited to, provable fraud, overages, or underages, that could cause a difference in the election results. The complaint shall also set forth any reasons for reversing, correcting, or changing the decisions of the precinct officials or the officials at a counting center in an election using the electronic voting system.

So in cases where fraud is found out after an election, a case may be brought. In the Keyes case, forensic document examiner submitted an affidavit claiming his online COLB was not genuine. If it is not genuine, then it is a case of fraud. But it seems the Hawaii courts don't want to look at that and instead point to a statute which has no relevance since the election has already taken place.

14 posted on 12/29/2008 11:11:20 PM PST by TheCipher
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29 posted on 12/30/2008 4:25:30 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: unspun
I've said this several times before, as have others, that the COLB cannot be used to prove natural-born status.

I've also reiterated the point (as I am doing again ) that the intent and subsequent outcomes from the creation and distribution of a false identification document is still an act of fraud that will continue to exist as a chargeable offense, regardless of what transpires in Congress or the Judicial System.

The law is very clear on what constitutes the creation and use of a false identification document, and it matters not that the fraudulent document is in an electronic medium, given that electronic copies of a document, like faxes, can suffice as valid alternatives, if not for the long term, then certainly for the short term where the paper originals will still need to be provided. Even in the latter case, electronic copies are acceptable, in most cases, to begin legal or governmental procedures, and it's only when the evidence goes to the court that originals are required. An example of this is when I faxed, and also emailed as a PDF file, my Affidavit.

Consider also that this bogus COLB has been used to obstruct legal proceedings, and to stifle governmental investigations into Obama's true origins.

31 posted on 12/30/2008 5:23:10 AM PST by Polarik (quote)
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One of these Obama non-citizenship cases is going to hit!

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


36 posted on 12/30/2008 1:58:10 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: unspun

If perchance Obama’s true birth history is outed... and he is outed; there is no doubt social upheaval will follow. At what point do the non-sheep start pointing fingers at the REAL culprit here... the press. In the era of internet it is now possible for a grassroots efforts to spread truth outside of the MSM. They no longer have a monopoly


51 posted on 01/01/2009 11:58:58 AM PST by armourup (Your Doctor is 100% wrong about Lyme Disease.)
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The certificate isn’t a birth certificate.It is a registration. Two differant things


52 posted on 01/25/2009 10:43:22 AM PST by screaming eagle2
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