Posted on 12/19/2008 10:36:11 AM PST by Gemsbok
If not here and now, where will you draw the line?
If the Natural Born citizen requirement that defines the requirement for President of the United States is to be ignored for this candidate, then it sets a precedent for all future usurpers as well.
And the same Americans will have no problem with the reigns of the United States of America in the hands of the sons of Osama BIN LADEN, Saddam HUSSEIN, Kim Jong-il, Mahmoud AHMADINEHAD, Fidel or Raul CASTRO, Hugo CHAVEZ,, Robert MUGABE, Sayyid Ali Khamenei, Hu Jintao, Omar Al-Bashir, Than Shwe, or Islam Karimov. That is to say, you have no problem with presidential eligibility, as long as their alien spawn was carried in the womb of an American girl.
Yes they would. Any case can be appealed, eventually even to the Supreme Court. And once it reaches the court it has to go through procedures. It cannot be dismissed out of hand by the staff, it has to at least be reviewed by one of the Justices. That Justice can deny it or schedule it for the weekly conference. But evidence doesn't enter into the matter regardless. This is an appeals court. The case is reviewed on it's merit. So the fact that the court has bothered to look at these cases, even in a cursory manner, is no testimony to evidence or lack there of.
But we’ve already covered that ground with you, and your revisiting of it just proves you to be a CoLB Troll.
I know you have. And all you've proven is that you have no idea of how the judicial system works. What kind of troll does that make you?
Here’s the substance: NOTHING will come of this.
As for calling everyone who points out what whackjobs you are an unpatriotic troll - get a life freak.
I hope for the sake of this country you are right.
It’ a sick and twisted sorrowful joke that smacks in the face of our founding fathers and all who have shed their precious blood in defense of this Constitution of the United States of America.
“Now you’ve done it. The only reason the ‘little nettle’ posts on these threads is to get jollies ridiculing and insulting freepers. I seriously doubt the thing cares one way or the other about the obamanoid taking office.”
I think you’re right. Time to put the O player in the corner, dunce hat and all, with an “ignore” sign to boot. ;)
So all you have to fall back on is insults and arguments from silence, the silence of the future. Why do jerks like you log into constitutionalist websites and deride those who hold the constitution to be a precious, magnificent document? As if the OUTCOME of the political entrigue was somehow the whole point. You make me sick. You have no answers, nothing constructive, only insults and derision. Your entire existence is defined by what others tell you rather than what you think for yourself. This thing isn’t in the MSM, therefore those who are following it must be freaks. Look at the Paula Jones case. None of us FReepers gave it credence, yet it yielded the impeachment of Clintoon. Of course, if something like that were to happen with zer0bama, you’ll be among the first to jump right on board with all the hurrahs, following the crowd like the lemming you are. Better answer that phone, your obamessiah called with updated talking points & marching orders.
It cannot be dismissed out of hand by the staff,
***Two of these cases have been dismissed out of hand by the justices they were filed with, and they were forwarded upon resubmission. If they had zero evidence to back them up, they would not have been forwarded. I don’t pretend to be a court judicial watch dude, but you do and your reasoning falls on first glance.
So the fact that the court has bothered to look at these cases, even in a cursory manner, is no testimony to evidence or lack there of.
***You know the stuff that comes out of the back end of a bull? Yeah, you are full of that. Go ahead, name any other whackadoo case that has gone to the supreme court 5 times simultaneously, forwarded at least 3 times rather than thrown out summarily, and you will have a case that has some evidence to back it up. But you won’t name such a case because 1) no other case exists like it and 2) your purpose is to denigrate, so even if you found the case you wouldn’t publish it and 3) you’re just a lazy troll. You know it is true about this BC case but you continue to try to deflect FReepers from the truth. That makes you, again, a CertifiGate troll.
Understand. What Yuri had to say, I have been mostly aware of for a number of years. Since I joined this web site some years back I often use the term “useful idiots”. The numbers of them are quite large at this point in time.
I don’t have time to argue with losers like you.
I’ll just laugh my ass off while you continue to drool Mr. Internet Tough Guy.
Your accusations reveal you to be an ignorant douchebag.
Thanks for the insults. It shows you are out of ammunition.
Here is something that some people still do not realize, there IS groups that have a sole agenda, the funding and the knowhow to disrupt forums and lessen morale through the use of constant contradictions like Chinese Water Torture:
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/breaking-you-know-this-audiotape-is-bad-for-obama-really-bad-because-obamas-followers-got-dead-silent-all-of-a-sudden/#comment-12850
# sarah p Says:
October 27, 2008 at 5:04 am
Ok, I want to clear my conscious a little. Hopefully you could make a blog post to help some fellow clinton supporters out.
I work for a campaign and can’t wait for this week to be over.
I was doing it for a job. I was not a fan of any candidate but over time grew to love HRC.
The internal campaign idea is to twist, distort, humiliate and finally dispirit you.
We pay people and organize people to go to all the online sites and “play the part of a clinton or mccain supporter who just switched our support for obama”
We do this to stifle your motivation and to destroy your confidence.
We did this the whole primary and it worked.
Sprinkle in mass vote confusion and it becomes bewildering. Most people lose patience and just give up on their support of a candidate and decide to just block out tv, news, websites, etc.
This surprisingly has had a huge suppressing movement and vote turnout issues.
Next, we infiltrate all the blogs and all the youtube videos and overwhelm the voting, the comments, etc. All to continue this appearance of overwhelming world support.
People makes posts to the effect that the world has “gone mad”
Thats the intention. To make you feel stressed and crazy and feel like the world is ending.
We have also had quite a hand in skewing many many polls, some we couldn’t control as much as we would have liked. But many we have spoiled over. Just enough to make real clear politics look scarey to a mccain supporter. Its worked, alough the goal was to appear 13-15 points ahead.
see, the results have been working. People tend to support a winner, go with the flow, become “sheeple”
The polls are roughly 3-5 points in favor of Barack. Thats due to our inflation of the polls and pulling in the sheeple.
Our donors, are the same people who finance the MSM. Their interests are tied, Barack then tends to come across as teflon. Nothing sticks. And trust, there were meetings with Fox news. The goal was to blunt them as much as possible. Watch Bill Oreilly he has become much more diplomatic and “fair and balanced” and soft. Its because he wants to retain the #1 spot on cable news and to do that he has to have access to the Obama campaign and we worked hard at stringing him a long and keeping him soft for an interview swap. It worked and now he is anticipating more access. So he is playing it still soft.
This is why nothing sticks.
The operation is massive, the goal is to paint a picture that is that of a winner, regardless of the results.
There is no true inauguration draft or true grant park construction going on. There will be a party, but we are boasting beyond the truth to make it seem like the election is wrapped up.
Our goal is to continue to make you lose your moral. We worked hard at persuasion and paying off and timing and playing the right political numbers to get key republican endorsements to make it seem even more like it was over and the world was coming to an end for you all.
There is a huge staff of people working around the clock, watching every site, blogs, etc. We flood these sites. We have had a goal to overwhelm.
The truth is here. I could go on and on, but you get the picture.
I am saying this because I know HRC was better for the country, and now realize this. I was too late by the time I connected to her. To me Barack was just a cool young dude that seemed like a star. I didn’t know him or his policies, but now I understand more than I care to and I realize his interests are more for him, and the DNC and all working like puppets with dean. I always thought a president wanted the better good for the country. The end result I see is everyone dependent on the government, this means more and more people voting for the DNC. This means the future is forever altered. I don’t see this as america, so I am now supporting John Mccain.
Sarah Palin is a huge threat, and our campaign has feared her like you can’t imagine. If it seems unfair how she has been treated, well its because she has had a team working round the clock to make her look like a fool.
this is a big conspiracy and I am so shocked that its not realized.
We released a little blurb the other day that the Obama campaign was already working on reelection and now putting our efforts towards 2012. This was to make it seem like it was above us to continue caring about 2008. Trust me, its a lie. David is very smart, but its a sticky ugly not very truthful kind of intelligence.
Its not over yet, but I think the machine is working. And its a hill to climb.
I will be quitting my post on nov 5th and my vote will be for John Mccain. Fortunately, my position has been a marketing position and I don’t feel I had any part of anything I would feel guilty for. But I look forward to getting out of this as the negativity and environment upsets me.
I wish you all well, and goodluck.
PS my name is not really sarah. but I am a female and I understand your plight.
Again, if you're familiar with the process it's very understandable. If one justice turns down a case the plantiff can take it to another justice. And if that justice turns it down then they can take it to another, and so on. An attorney I know told me that Justice Thomas took the Donofrio case to conference just to put an end to it once and for all. Once the conference declines to hear the matter then it's dead. It has nothing to do with any evidence, because when you get right down to it the matter has never reached a trial at any level where evidence was introduced.
You know the stuff that comes out of the back end of a bull?
Hell yes. Since these threads got started I've seen tons of it coming from you guys.
Except that isn't what's going on here. One case hasn't gone to the court five times. There have been at least three cases that went to the Supreme Court and not a single one has made it past conference. So if you want to say that is a testiment to the 'evidence' then I'll agree with that. But hey, keep up the good work. I find these threads highly amusing.
The silence of the future? That is exactly what we are met with now in regard to questions about this vanishing man.
Sealed records.
Missing records.
Sequestered relatives.
Stifled reporters and news commentaries
Websites scrubbed in their entirety on a regular basis.
Disappearing photographs and articles that challenge the official timeline.
Kenyan authorities blocking and screening access to all ordinary inquiries.
The future silence and blackout is already here and now.
An attorney I know told me that Justice Thomas took the Donofrio case to conference just to put an end to it once and for all.
***And the same thing happened to the other 2 cases? Show me ANY issue in history where this has happened in the past and I will show you an issue with legitimacy. Until then, STFU.
Arguing from silence is a classic fallacy. None of us know what is in those sealed records, so we cannot proceed as if we do. We can comment on the silence, which is a legitimate issue to bring out. But we cannot argue from the silence.
I'm having too much fun poking holes you your lame arguements to STFU.
Then argue away, bozo. Produce evidence of another issue like this that has ever gotten to the Supreme Court with 5 concurrent cases. Go ahead. And while you’re busy not producing such evidence, you’ll no doubt continue to troll on certifigate threads and deride those of us who take this constitutional issue seriously, being the anal orifice you are.
I’ve been a FReeper for a long time. Seen lots of conspiracy theories & what not. I don’t recall the Chemtrails ever getting forwarded by the Supreme Court for conference, certainly not 3 times. Or am I wrong about that? Did the Vince Foster case ever get conference in SCOTUS? Did you spend your time deriding those souls? If it did make it to the Supreme Court, what would have been the constitutional crisis? Why do you log onto a constitutional website and deride those who want the truth behind this constitutional issue? Doesn’t it bother you that zer0bama’s goal and yours are the same with respect to this issue?
I leave the non-production of evidence to your side. I'll just sit back and watch your cases, one by one, keep getting shot down.
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