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Announcing Shinsecki’s appointment to the department of VA on 12/7 a good idea?(Vanity)
http://www.nndb.com/people/680/000031587/ ^ | 12/07/2008 | Soliton

Posted on 12/07/2008 8:35:22 AM PST by Soliton

First let me thank General Shinsecki for his service and say that I am appalled at the internment of Japanese-American's during the Democratic Roosevelt administration.

My question to FReepers is, did Obama know he was announcing the appointment of the only General of Japanese descent on PEARL HARBOR DAY.

Why today?

"shisecki" apparently means "relative" in Japanese for what it's worth.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: bhodod; bhoveterans; december7th; obama; pearlharbor; shinseki
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This is either a screw up, or a thumb in the eye to veterans of WWII
1 posted on 12/07/2008 8:35:23 AM PST by Soliton
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To: Soliton

I’ll never forgive him for saddling us with the stupid black beret. He’s a dick.


2 posted on 12/07/2008 8:37:43 AM PST by strider44
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To: Soliton
This is either a screw up, or a thumb in the eye to veterans of WWII

Just a screw-up. Pearl Harbor Day has no meaning for Obama, having no experience as an American, after all.

3 posted on 12/07/2008 8:39:10 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Soliton

It is a thumb in the eye to the Bush administration, at the very least, since this is the general that both Kerry and other Dems have championed as the smartest man alive in regards to Iraq.

I know he has shown himself to be incompetent on a number of issues, including the decision to have the army uniform wear Chinese made berets, which was later changed.


4 posted on 12/07/2008 8:39:12 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: ilgipper; Chieftain; SandRat

Oh my God. there goes the VA!!!


5 posted on 12/07/2008 8:41:05 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Obozo.....friend of dictators and wannabee revoluuuushionaries !)
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To: Soliton; Jarhead2844; USMCWriter; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ..

Ping


6 posted on 12/07/2008 8:49:52 AM PST by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: Soliton
Well, it seems, all VA employees will be wearing tan beret's soon -

Shinsecki's service should be respected, but he is a tool and the Army was better off once he was retired.

7 posted on 12/07/2008 8:49:57 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: hinckley buzzard
Pearl Harbor Day has no meaning for Obama,

Does it have any meaning to the DNC media? Far more young Americans know about Hiroshima than about Pearl Harbor. Perhaps, in their ignorance, they think that the bombing of Pearl Harbor was in response to Hiroshima. I hope not.

8 posted on 12/07/2008 8:54:21 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: Soliton
Watching the early morning talk shows I found myself a bit confused. Everyone was gushing of this appointment saying it was a poke in the eye of Bush and Rumsfeld.  They all played the Carl Levin question to him asking how many troops should be sent into Iraq and his response was the now infamous "certainly hundreds of thousands" remark.  The remarks were all along the line that Shinsecki was right and Rumsfeld was wrong. Exactly when did we have hundreds of thousands or troops in Iraq?  Last time I checked we had won that war and we did it without hundreds of thousands of troops.

It drives me nuts to hear these people that are clearly anti-Iraq-war suck up to the guy that would have widened the war by at least a factor of three to begin with.  These same people that complain about spending 100 billion a year, now wanted to listen to the guy that wanted to spend 300 billion a year.

Not to mention Obama put him in charge of the VA, a bureaucracy not the Army.  Did I fall down a rabbit hole this morning?

9 posted on 12/07/2008 8:59:22 AM PST by HawaiianGecko (Online internet polls are foolish: Winston Churchill, 1939)
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To: Freee-dame; hinckley buzzard
Pearl Harbor Day has no meaning for Obama

I seem to recall Klintoon taking the opportunity to use June 6th (D-Day Anniversary)to announce June as gay pride month. Typical dems. To hell with guys that stormed the beaches to liberate Europe, lets celebrate people for where they want to stick their genitals.
10 posted on 12/07/2008 9:01:31 AM PST by Boris99
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To: strider44

“I’ll never forgive him for saddling us with the stupid black beret.”

I hated that damned thing, but he WAS right about troops levels needed for Iraq, thus the eventually “surge.”


11 posted on 12/07/2008 9:07:48 AM PST by Grunthor (bush04 - 62, 040, 610 mccain08 - 58, 164, 693.......Moving left is NOT the answer!)
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To: Soliton

It’s neither. Pearl Harbor occurred 67 years ago. My dad, a Marine Corp veteran of Okinawa, got over it decades ago. I suggest we do the same.


12 posted on 12/07/2008 9:11:19 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Soliton

“...we’re going to have to change our traditions, our history and we’re going to have to move to a different place.” - Michelle Obama, 2008.


13 posted on 12/07/2008 9:14:30 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: HawaiianGecko
For every military operation in history there is always someone calling for more troops. Fort Ticonderoga? We need more troops! Gettysburg? We need more troops! San Juan Hill? We need more troops! Bastogne? We need more troops! Simply declaring that we need more troops does not a brilliant military strategist make.

The left loves to portray Shinseki as the smartest man in the room who was fired for daring to challenge the failed Rumsfeld/Bush strategy, when his retirement was announced well in advance of any planning for Iraq. Shinseki was let go because he was a PC, Klintoon clown in the mold of Wes Clark. Black berets anyone?
14 posted on 12/07/2008 9:15:49 AM PST by Boris99
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To: Freee-dame

Wait until you see how OBAMA(tm) observes his first 9-11 anniversary as president.


15 posted on 12/07/2008 9:15:53 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: HawaiianGecko

I thought the Obama and DBM talking point was that the surge didn’t cause the situation in Iraq to improve. So are they flip flopping again?

We needed more troops but the situation improved despite us sending more troops???


16 posted on 12/07/2008 9:18:29 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: freema; Soliton; Jarhead2844; USMCWriter; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; ...
Shinsecki? The guy with the CHICOM berets? The paper-pusher in the zoot uniform? Make a great Sears and Roebuck Management Trainee or Army Chief of Staff .... whatever.

It is fitting that this otherwise splendidly useless fellow is of Japanese descent, because it highlights the absolute and incontrovertible fact that if Barry/Barack had been around on December 6, 1941, the whole thing would have been amicably settled at the Tokyo/Mombasa Peace Talks.

Don't worry. Be Happy! If Shinsecki has any questions, he can always call Colin Powell.

17 posted on 12/07/2008 9:26:04 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Emperor Skippy-o Africanus, campaigns for Church-Burning Jihadist.)
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To: Soliton
..and say that I am appalled at the internment of Japanese-American's during the Democratic Roosevelt administration.

Before becoming too appalled, you might consider whether you are applying peacetime standards to a time of war - a war that we could very well have lost (for example, Midway was a VERY close thing).

Unwise? possibly, but it would have taken less than one percent of the Japanese population performing sabotage on the West Coast to have greatly hindered shipping to the war. Unless you were an adult at that time, with knoweldge of the strength of the emotional ties of all of the ethnic Japanese to their homeland, you may not have the proper context for judging that decision.

Also, the internment protected the Japanese-Americans - had sabotage occurred, and found to be of Japanese origin, it is not unlikely that some extreme Americans would have slaughtered some of the Japanese-Americans in reprisal.

So, it may have simply been a regrettable necessity. A lot of things are done during the fog of war that you wouldn't do in peacetime.

If you are still appalled, perhaps you would like also to be appalled at Lincoln's actions shutting down newspapers in the North that were sympathetic to the Southern Cause ... or padlocking the Marilyn Legislature so that they could also not vote to secede ... or jailing suspected sympathizers and refusing writs of Habeas Corpus.

18 posted on 12/07/2008 9:29:14 AM PST by Mack the knife
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To: Mack the knife

Yeah....needs must when the devil drives.


19 posted on 12/07/2008 9:33:55 AM PST by spokeshave (0bambi wants to kill babies and raise taxes, Sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: Soliton

Nope!

Then again, there is no such thing as a “good idea” that will come forth from Barky and his Marxist mob.


20 posted on 12/07/2008 9:38:04 AM PST by Howie66 (To the RAT Party: How can I question your patriotism? You have none, so what's your point?)
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