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To: SmokingJoe
First you have to have a base. We have three antagonistic camps at each others throats. We have no issue, no message, and no spokesman. Fortunately we also have no election.

First we get our house in order then we go on the attack. There is nothing against which to mobilize except what I recommend doing, Sarah Palin, for example, should establish her gravitas by a serious speech on energy attacking the entire moonbat program of Obama. Other conservatives should make their case on other issues.

When we hear the right spokesman with the right message at the right time, we will know what to do. Meanwhile, I repeat, it is wrongfooted to put the search for the spokesperson ahead of the search for the message. The process must be Darwinian. No one should be anointed.


21 posted on 12/06/2008 4:19:26 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
We have no issue, no message, and no spokesman.”

We have plenty of issues and plenty of messages.
That is not the problem. The Republican base has been telling the leadership what we want for years, but Bush, McCain, Mel Martinez, and the rest of the amnesty loving clowns in Washington stubbornly wouldn't listen, even after contributions to the RNC continued to fall sharply.
As long as we elect a strong new RNC leadserhip that will strongly push conseravtive policies and conservative candidates, the Republican Party will be fine. With a Marxist in the White house, conservatism can only flourish(action and reaction are equal and opposite)..unless we are stupid enough to elect wishy washy RINO's to lead the RNC again, like the idiots that Bush put in charge of the RNC. Bottom line, Gov Plain energizes the base like no one else, and she is going to continue to help win plenty of seats for us come 2010, and have a very good chance of removing the Marxist usurper from the White house come 2012.

23 posted on 12/06/2008 4:47:21 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: nathanbedford
We have three antagonistic camps at each others throats.

Exactly, and we would rather attack each other than Democrats.

I do not agree that we have no message.

We had the issues handed to us on a silver platter but we tend to run superficial campaigns and ignore hammering the same issues over and over.

We had energy, the economhy, illegal immigration and national security.

Now here comes the real problem--a totally ignorant electorate. Those that voted Obama did it purely on emotion and didn't know that he is bad on all four issues.

37 posted on 12/06/2008 6:00:21 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: nathanbedford
Meanwhile, I repeat, it is wrongfooted to put the search for the spokesperson ahead of the search for the message. The process must be Darwinian. No one should be anointed.

Well stated.

56 posted on 12/06/2008 9:17:37 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: nathanbedford
Meanwhile, I repeat, it is wrongfooted to put the search for the spokesperson ahead of the search for the message.

Agreed. I've talked about this before. We first must come to some agreement on what we, as the conservative movement, believe.

58 posted on 12/06/2008 9:23:29 AM PST by B Knotts (ConservatismCentral.com)
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