OBAMA'S 'BORN' CONSPIRACY - Important and corrections

The Greater Evil ^ | 12/01/08 | Polarik

[MHGinTN]

As Frazer Crane would say (paraphrasing) ‘We were listening, Ron.’ You did well, guy!

[jetxnet]

It was four months ago, I lose track of time but believe it was mid to late August.

I forget where I read it, but will try to find some references to it (if they still exist). The article was detailed, included dates/times etc.

[little jeremiah]

Thank you - that’s very interesting.

I sure wish someone else somewhere in the world remembers that.

[Polarik]

My second question would be the same as my first question, since you completely avoided it.

There's no question to avoid, period, because there's no question that a real 2007 COLB document would have the Seal used on 2007 COLBs, and not the Seal used on 2006 or 2008 COLBs.

If you wish to offer up a stupid, idiotic, pointless question like, "How do you know that a real 2007 COLB cannot have a seal from a different year," then you can save your breath.

[jetxnet]

I know what you mean.

Here is an excerpt from one article. The Israeli Insider claims to have interviewed a Blogger named McKinnon. McKinnon claims he created JPEGs of the COLB, not intending them to be used for forgery. It may explain why the forgery was so poorly done, as McKinnon seems to allude to if his images were used:

From the article:

McKinnon was asked: Weren’t you worried someone would download your images and make fake birth certificates? “Not in the slightest. Anyone who tries to pass off a forgery from those JPEGs deserves the jail time they get.”

McKinnon goes on to say:

” Birth certificate “painter” mocks Obama claim that image proves authenticity
By Israel Insider staff July 7, 2008

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In a rambling interview with the Daily Kos — the blog site that published the supposedly authentic Barack Hussein Obama birth certificate and his own birth certificate manipulations in the same June 12 post, Jay McKinnon, aka opendna, says he manipulated the Obama birth certificate to create a blank Hawaii birth certificate as a “template,” supposedly for a John McCain birth certificate. But he says it was not an attempt at deception but a “lame joke” that he now regrets.

But in trying to avoid legal trouble by diminished the significance of manipulating electronic images, he further undermines the explicit claims of the Barack Obama campaign and the Daily Kos itself that the posted images of his purported birth certificate prove that the candidate was Hawaii-born. McKinnon, who says he was trained in document analysis by the Department of Homeland Security, says it’s impossible to assess the authenticity of a birth certificate from image files rather than paper documents. “It should be self-evident that a JPEG [image file] of a scanned official document cannot be valid.”

While that conclusion echoes and strengthens the calls of those who have been demanding that Obama provide paper proof, McKinnon undermines his own credibility from the get-go when he claims that he first encountered the Obama birth certificate issue “around June 12, 2008” when “As I recall, someone sent me an email containing two images. One of the Decosta birth certificate and the other from Fight The Smears. The subject line was ‘Birth Certificate Appears to be “Invalid.”

The only trouble with that statement is that McKinnon had already created the blank Hawaii birth certificate template for John McCain and the “Ahphorgerie” joke on June 12 before Fight the Smears had even published the birth certificate. Kos had published it that morning, about four hours earlier. Patricia DeCosta’s birth certificate surfaced in the blogosphere only a week later, on June 19. So how did he compare the documents? And why would he say it was the first he’d heard of the birth certificate controversy when he had already posted his own patently fake certificates.

In any case, McKinnon says, comparing two images to determine the validity of one or the other is a patently ridiculous task: “It was a kin [to] comparing two photocopies of dollar bills to determine if one of them was counterfeit.”

There’s another oddity. The Fight the Smears image is a low-resolution image which has been proved to be derived directly from the Daily Kos scan. The former would have been useless for McKinnon to look at. So why didn’t he look at the Daily Kos scan instead, which he had to know was the source for what appears on Fight the Smears? It doesn’t make any sense.

His explanation of the blank template is even more convoluted. “I made another joke about people making allegations of fraud: If people are allegedly faking birth certificates for Obama why shouldn’t they fake one for McCain? In fact, why shouldn’t both Senators be born in the same place at the same time? I would have left the date of birth in but it was too late to UNDO. Again, I thought it was self-evident what I’d done, how I’d done it and that the motivation was satire. But like I said, they weren’t very funny jokes.”

Anyone who cares to read the comment thread can see this is a lie. No one was making allegations of fraud at this time: Daily Kos had just published the “real thing” just hours before. They were having fun, showing the Dead Sea scrolls as McCain’s birth certificate and other cheap shots. McKinnon is projecting this into the past to rationalize his own suggestion: “Why don’t you print one up for him? Here’s a blank template.” He was just having fun. And while McKinnon may claim that no one took it seriously, the real point is not whether his blank template could be used to create a passable paper document but whether that blank template may have been used to create the birth certificate image file of Barack Hussein Obama, as the Daily Kos produced that very day, and the very same day that McKinnon produced his fakes.

“It should be self-evident that a JPEG of a scanned official document cannot be valid.”
Jay McKinnon, DHS-trained document specialist and Microsoft Paint power user

Clearly it could have been, by the exact same technique that McKinnon used: stripping one birth certificate and adding new text for the desired data. We carefully did not accuse him of doing this, but as he proves, supposedly with Microsoft Paint (!), it would have been easy enough to do it. (It’s still not clear why he went to all the trouble to make his “lame joke” or why a document specialist with extensive accounts at Photobucket and Flicker is using Microsoft Paint.)

The dubious origins of the BHO birth certificate on the Kos site, without a logical explanation other than that the Obama campaign provided it, strengthens the likelihood that the so-called birth certificate was produced in a similar way, and then “adopted” by Fight the Smears. The process of using Daily Kos as a production and publication facility is beyond irregular, especially given the highly tendentious content on that site, including most recently its promotion of fake press passes.

McKinnon was asked: Weren’t you worried someone would download your images and make fake birth certificates? “Not in the slightest. Anyone who tries to pass off a forgery from those JPEGs deserves the jail time they get. (Again, my respect to Hawaii’s Department of Health: they’ve done a commendable job.)”

“I believe a reasonable person would conclude that the intent was satire, humor or virtually anything but fraud. Furthermore, I am confident in ability of 11 and a half out of 12 human beings to distinguish between an image on a computer screen and a physical, printed, stamped and sealed government document (no matter how poor the quality).”

I’m not sure if this where I got the info, but addresses it to some degree. Here is the article link:

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12993.htm

[BIGLOOK]

In the final analysis, more than 59,400,000 voted against Obama. He has yet to become the President Elect, which will occur at the convention of the Electoral College delegates in a few day. But he has the arrogance to appoint cabinet members, whose confirmations won't be affirmed until Congress convenes in January. He has the arrogance to proffer himself before the populace as President Elect before the fact.

He may well succeed attaining office but he simply does not portray himself presently as the representative of the American people. He comes off as potentate.

[MHGinTN]

You are witnessing well planned and continuing to be carried out astroturfing, wherein Axelrod is trying to fabricate the inevitability of the little Marxist squirrel. There is no 'office of the' President-elect. There may be a phrasing assignment but no formal 'office of'.

[jetxnet]

His arrogance is definitely unrivaled .. he fits the pathological Narcissist profile to a T.

On a note about the post with regard to the DailyKOS blogger McKinnon. McKinnon’s testimony that he created a template for the COLB, based on Hawaii COLB certificate, supports Dr. Poliks discoveries about one image starting as the base image.

[BIGLOOK]

Re the COLB issue, it was common practice for the State of Hawaii to issue Birth Certificates on hearsay from the parents of a child, presented to a physician at a 'well baby' and maternal post natal checkup. This was a clinical procedure and not a certified hospital live birth event which would have had an attending physician and a stay in the maternity ward for a couple days.

Why, you might ask......because a lot of immigrants came to Hawaii to work the plantations from China, Japan, Puerto Rico and Portugal in the early days and later from the Philippines and Micronesia. Families were reunited and the territory, later the state, showed benevolence.

Of course, this system of certification may not apply to Obama and can be easily be denied by simply releasing the Certification of Live Birth issued by a hospital with a physician in attendance. The billing records would be helpful too.

[LucyT]

Thanks, BIGLOOK.

Ping to #49.

Don't worry; I can't keep up, either.

[woofie]

I have not read every post on this subject so maybe this has been covered but for those who say this whole thing is going nowhere does the fact(and here I suppose it IS a fact) that a presidential candidate lied about his birth certificate bother anyone?

The coverup is worse than the crime ....no?

[Kevmo]

Don’t worry; I can’t keep up, either.
***Phew, I thought it was just me. Thanks for the pings.

[LucyT]

LOL.

You’re welcome, Kevmo.

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Bump Dat...still paddlin’...;0)

[Calpernia]

[Calpernia]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2040486/posts
Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)

[Calpernia]

That is the main article of that big, ongoing blogger thread that we have pinged you to Jeremiah.

[Jeff Head]

OBama's bin lyin all along about much of his life, and particularly his upbringing. One day, all of those lies are going to catch up with him and bring his crystal palace crashing down.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

[autumnraine]

Good job Polarik!!

[autumnraine]

With the level of worship these people have for Obama, I wouldn’t doubt there was no money involved.

I’ve never seen anything like it. Just look how the supposed professional journalists act.