Posted on 11/29/2008 10:01:20 PM PST by Deepest End
Speaking of mail: It's the rumor that won't go away. I continue to get e-mails about why mainstream media are not pursuing the challenge to the authenticity of President-elect Barack Obama's citizenship. The answer is that this allegation has been vetted and debunked.
As this began to circulate on the right-wing blogosphere last spring, the Obama campaign posted a copy of his birth certificate on the Internet for the world to see. While it is true that Hawaiian officials have not made the document public because of privacy laws, the state's health director said she and the registrar of vital statistics have personally inspected his birth certificate and can vouch for its authenticity. That pretty much amounts to "case closed" for anyone but the conspiracy theorists who are convinced that Obama was born in Kenya and his mother fraudulently applied for a Hawaii birth certificate. Even if this were true - it seems rather silly to engage this argument, but here goes - I can't imagine anyone being able to put together sufficient evidence to invalidate a birth certificate that has been in the official vault for 47 years.
That certificate states that Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Honolulu at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961. And, yes, Hawaii had achieved statehood by then, contrary to some versions of this rumor.
John Diaz is The Chronicle's editorial page editor. You can e-mail him at jdiaz@sfchronicle.com.
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You can almost bet there is, given what's at stake, and the fact that Obama is still stalling.
I'm sure that behind the scenes at Obama HQ, there's a fevered race against time going on. Lotta folks have been noticing how horrible Obama looks lately too. It's got to be the stress of having full knowledge of the entire deception.
Now the bumblers at OHQ have compounded Obama's troubles by bungling the forgery of his Selective Service registration too. A reporter asked Obama recently if the death threats were keeping him up at night, and he responded, "there's a lot of things keeping me up at night."
I'll bet there are, Obama. Especially the fact that your people face an almost insurmountable task to not only create a perfect forgery of your original bc, but they also have to properly forge its origin point, handling, witnesses, transit, receipt, destruction of the true original, etc.
And what about the names that will be revealed on this document, such as the hospital of birth? They're going to have to forge, then insert perfect records into the hospital's database, plus coach any living "witnesses" to his birth. They may have to insert certain of these records into the state microfiche record, as well.
And, then of course, there's the messy little detail of removing anyone who might become aware of what they're doing. Icky.
It's a tall damn order for a crew, who to this point, has lied, bungled and faked their way through just about every step of the process.
Family history is key. What did his parents and grand-parents and great-grandparemts do when faced with difficult problems? They ran away — by travel (leaving a broken family), by alcohol, by drugs. They split out or dropped out.
Well, to their credit, the Dunhams stayed married for life. Obama's parents, on the other hand, weren't stabilizing forces for him at all.
In the end, it was the grands that carried him to adulthood. Sadly, the damage had already been done.
The Dunhams left Seattle why? Why did Madelyn and Stanley Dunham allow Obama to hook up with "Sex Rebel" communist Frank Davis? Just saying ...
Obama's life story makes about the best fodder for speculation I've ever seen in a politician. The words who - what - why - when - where, and how, seem to precede every sentence about this guy.
Indeed, some sexual predators seem to understand this "eyes wide shut" social psychological dynamic and exploit it. Also some modern groups of predators -- GLSEN comes to mind.
In any case, to pursue these 'rumors' about Obama's family to ground has brought on and will bring on considerable reactions of the most vile derision for the message bearers -- just because of the material. It can be more harm than good to bring it up, yet some discrete mentions must, I think, be made of the possibility. Especially the Frank Davis era of Obama's life.
Which is why most folks on the right will leave that portion of Barry's life alone, even if there's something there.
Best that we get him on the things that matter most, in my opinion.
Trust me, the “eyes wide shut” stuff is foundational. We may be better able — I mean we are almost surely far more able — to effect redress with the more palatable material, but the black soul rises off a black foundation. And I’m not talking race at all.
Yes, to pull off a forgery would be a massive, complicated undertaking, fraught with any number of difficulties.
It comes down to the question of whether some authoritative entity (US Supreme Court?) actually demand that The Zero produce a valid document.
The way I understand it, that is still yet to be determined.
I'm sure that Obama's strategy is to hold off all challenges until after the swearing in, then use the full force of the office of the President to further squash any attempts at discovery. Until then, he's a sitting duck, and he knows it.
If ANYTHING is going to be done about this Constitutional question, it needs to be done now before the Coronation. Can the Supreme Court be “held off”? I thought they operated on their own timetable.
I fear this is just going to be allowed to fade away....
Didn’t we hear this about the Swiftboat vets exposure of Kerry but in fact they never laid a hand on John O’Neal. They never refuted a single word yet they claim they did.
Truth simply does not matter to these folks. All that they care about is as their delusion that their in command.
I'll agree that the best time to do something about this is now, but even if the issue is unresolved by Inauguration Day, it will still go on increasing in intensity and magnitude. This thing is much too large now for Barry to ignore it to death. The American people are going to get an answer from him on this, no matter what it takes.
Richard Nixon thought that he could out-stall the people too, but in the end, the pressure was too great. Even for a President. Judgment day is coming for Obama.
Fifty days is a long, long time in this sort of situation. Far too long to just tough it out til Jan 20th. More revelations about the issue come out every week, and interest in the controversy is growing by the day. In a few weeks, it'll be all that anyone can talk about, whether the MSM reports on it, or not.
My guess is that Obama is hoping for a resolution that doesn't include his having to reveal his long form birth certificate. I can only imagine how dismal things must look on the inside of Obama HQ. You can bet they've studied every possible outcome, and have drawn up battle plans to defend against every one of them, but from looking over the best data to hand, it does not look good for him.
Perhaps that's why he looks so awful lately. Like a hunted man.
“Richard Nixon thought that he could out-stall the people too, but in the end, the pressure was too great. Even for a President.”
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The Nixon example is interesting.
Despite far worse transgressions by the preceding Democrat Johnson and Kennedy administrations the LeftMedia dogged Nixon, fanning the flames of Watergate until he was forced to resign.
I was an adolescent during the Watergate era, but don’t recall a lot of man-in-the-street outrage concerning Nixon; it was largely press and popular media giving it non-stop attention. FWIW, the recollection of a then 14 year old.
The ObamaMedia is going to continue to ACTIVELY ignore this issue. It will take grass root conservative efforts to keep the flame flickering. I certainly don’t think we can rely on ball-less rank and file Republicans to lend any support.
Having said that, I pray that you are right and I am wrong.
“Didnt we hear this about the Swiftboat vets exposure of Kerry but in fact they never laid a hand on John ONeal. They never refuted a single word yet they claim they did.”
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Similar to Ann Coulter’s total refutation of that foundational pillar of the American Left: McCarthyism.
You can still read that her destruction of that mythology was proven wrong, but they never even laid a glove on her arguments, supported as they were by primary source decrypted Soviet intelligence documents.
I had this same thought today, after posting the Nixon example. It was the MSM that broke Watergate, and it was them that stoked the fire of scandal until he resigned, which is exactly the reverse of the Obama scandal dynamic.
The difference between now and then, is the internet. One guy with a webcam can upload a video to YouTube and potentially get millions of hits, if his offering is powerful enough. The MSM no longer owns the means of information dissemination, and their market share is dropping every day. Still, they're in control of more numbers of eyeballs in greater concentrations than any site on the internet (but Drudge).
That being said, this issue is "climbing the charts with a bullet". It's just too momentous of a situation to maintain a news blackout forever. Every week now, we're seeing more and more mainstream news outlets covering the story. Those will only increase, because the people themselves are already discussing this thing widely. It's the worst kept secret in town, and Obama is only driving the growth of it by continuing to dodge the issue.
SF Chronicle has some token neocon (female) who was on Dennis Miller’s radio show last week or two and she bought up that she’s getting emails claiming Bam Bam not a citizen and she and Miller had a good laugh.
Maybe Miller’s pal Krengor at American Thinker can get Miller onto the Joe the Farmer article.....Miller said the site was like an “ellis Island” and needs reqular visits. Miller needs to re-visit.
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