Posted on 11/28/2008 10:36:50 PM PST by OL Hickory
So that’s it. He gets to get in on his signature!?!?!
This is near proof he hasn’t had to show anyone his damn birth certificate!!!
You are incorrect.
There is a difference between citizen and natural born citizen. His mother was not old enough to transfer her citizenship to Obama on her own and his father was not a US citizen.
Thanks for the ping, hoosiermama.
Ping; check out #5, too.
(#16, last week another freeper and I were discussing Milli Vanilli.)
I haven’t seen the underlying statutes but am guessing its perjury.
According to the information from this video, having an American born mother is not enough!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqH7rSHcvgU
Thanks, LucyT
Ping
Very important information at thread
Go wash your keyboard with lye soap. And promise to never use the word ‘honorable’ on the Internet again.
Um, Barack Obama could not have dual citizenship if his mother had not been an American citizen for five years past the age of fourteen, according to the 1961 law. She was eighteen when he was born, as far as we can tell at this juncture of dealing with forgeries and lies spewing forth fromt the Obama criminal enterprise. Obama has tried to claim he held dual citizenship. That is yet to be proven since only his ftaher’s citizenship could incur to him at birth because his mother had no status to pass citizenship to him at eighteen.
Here is the msnbc website that he refers to:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/26/1689515.aspx
The narrator/creater of that video does a great job of covering the bases in an easy to understand manner. He avoids political commentary and sticks to the facts. Good voice also.
Dr.? Polarick comes across as a hack which doesn’t help the cause. The pixelization of his face looks like a B-movie attempt at drama/suspense.
Nope.
Right after being tarred, feathered and 5 years of hard labor in Leavenworth for forging his COLB.
Thanks for the Ping
You obviously don’t know much regarding this story. Best to learn before you talk about it.
Throw the fake bum in jail.
Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States:
"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
The most overlooked words in that section are: "...or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution..." You must recall that most, if not all, of the framers of the Constitution were, at birth, born as British subjects.
Stop and think about that.
The chosen wording of the Framers here makes it clear that they had drawn a distinction between themselves - persons born subject to British jurisdiction - and "natural born citizens" who would not be born subject to British jurisdiction or any other jurisdiction other than the United States. And so the Framers grandfathered themselves into the Constitution as being eligible to be President. But the grandfather clause only pertains to any person who was a Citizen... at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution. Obama was definitely not a Citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and so he is not grandfathered in.
If you click through to Factcheck.org, a more detailed discussion as to why Obama was a British citizen at birth explains the relevant statutes:
"When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom's dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.'s children:
British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.' "
The article goes on to state that Obama's British citizenship was transferred to Kenya as Kenya became independent from the UK and that Obama's Kenyan citizenship expired when he turned 21 years old. But none of that is relevant since the Constitution requires that every President be a "natural born citizen". The word "born" is proof positive that the status must be present "at birth". If this were not the case, then, as stated above, the Framers would not have needed to put in a grandfather clause.
The Framers recognized that even they were not "natural born citizens" and so they wrote the grandfather clause in to allow any of them to become President. But the grandfather clause only pertains to those who were Citizens at the time of the Constitution's adoption. And so, Barack Obama is not a "natural born citizen" of the United States and neither is John McCain who was born in Panama, and neither is Roger Calero who was born in Nicaragua.
It’s fraud and more in my opinion. Also, there is evidence that he may have also falsified a Selective Service Registration document. See keyword search “selectiveservice” here at FR for a report by attorney Debbie Schlussel (displayed at her website of the same name).
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
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