Posted on 11/28/2008 5:01:06 PM PST by pissant
via LadyHawkke, Count Us Out Reader
Read this: Amending the Natural Born Citizen Requirement It is obvious BO is not natural born or his friends wouldnt be trying so hard to make him one. http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/barracks/index.php?topic=250.0 :
If the Facts Dont Support the Theory, Destroy the Facts
Comment left by: CreativeOgre:
While digging my way through the Internet last night, I came across the following paper, written by SARAH P. HERLIHY. Its title
AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE
caught my eye, and had to read it
http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/81-1/Herlihy.pdf
I had to ask myself, what would drive any American to want to change a clause in a document that is the very foundation of our government?
So, I kept digging, and found that SARAH P. HERLIHY is employed by Kirkland & Ellis LLP http://www.kirkland.com
Noting that this law firm is based in Chicago, the light bulb was shining a little brighter Smiley. Upon looking at the firm, and the partners, I found that Bruce I. Ettelson, P.C., is Member of finance committees of U.S. Senators Barack Obama and Richard Durbin.
http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm temID=7845 (towards bottom of the page)
In addition, Jack S. Levin, P.C., another partner who, in December 2002 was presented the Illinois Venture Capital Associations lifetime achievement award for service to the private equity/venture capital community presented by Sen. Barack Obama
So it sure looks like Obamas people have looked into the matter of Natural born as far back as early 2006. What is even more disturbing is that it would appear that they are following the thought of :
If the facts do not support the theory, Destroy the facts!
Here is the introduction to the paper It looks like a road map for Obamas defense lawyers And a precursor to a Socialist world.
AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE SARAH P. HERLIHY∗
INTRODUCTION
The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the stupidest provision in the Constitution,1 undecidedly un American,2 blatantly discriminatory,3 and the Constitutions worst provision.4 Since Arnold Schwarzeneggers victory in the California gubernatorial recall election of 2003, commentators and policy-makers have once again started to discuss whether Article II of the United States Constitution should be amended to render naturalized citizens eligible for the presidency.5 Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution defines the eligibility requirements for an individual to become president. Article II provides:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Of-fice who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.6
Although these sixty-two words are far from extraordinary, the natural born citizen provision is controversial because it prevents over 12.8 million Americans from being eligible for the presidency.7 In addition to Governor Schwarzenegger, the natural born citizen clause prohibits many other prominent Americans from becoming president, including Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm,8 former Secretaries of State Madeleine Albright and Henry Kissinger, Labor Secretary Elaine Chao,9 and over 700 Medal of Honor Winners.10 Even though many of these individuals have served in high political positions or fought in a war on behalf of America, they are not able to become president simply because they were not born in the United States.11
The natural born citizen clause of the United States Constitution should be repealed for numerous reasons. Limiting presidential eligibility to natural born citizens discriminates against naturalized citizens, is out-dated and undemocratic, and incorrectly assumes that birthplace is a proxy for loyalty. The increased globalization of the world continues to make each of these reasons more persuasive. As the world becomes smaller and cultures become more similar through globalization, the natural born citi-zen clause has increasingly become out of place in the American legal sys-tem. However, even though globalization strengthens the case for a Constitutional amendment, many Americans argue against abolishing the requirement. In a recent USA Today/CNN/Gallup Poll taken November 1921, 2004, only 31% of the respondents favored a constitutional amendment to abolish the natural born citizen requirement while 67% opposed such an amendment.12
Although some of the reasons for maintaining the natural born citizen requirement are rational, many of the reasons are based primarily on emotion. Therefore, although globalization is one impetus that should drive Americans to rely on reason and amend the Constitution, this paper argues that common perceptions about globalization ironically will convince Americans to rely on emotion and oppose a Constitutional amendment. Part one of this paper provides a brief history and overview of the natural born citizen requirement. Part two discusses the rational reasons for abolishing this requirement and describes why the increase in globalization makes abolishing the natural born citizen requirement more necessary than ever. Part three presents the arguments against allowing naturalized citizens to be eligible for the presidency and identifies common beliefs about glob-alization that will cause Americans to rely on emotion and oppose a Constitutional amendment.
http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/barracks/index.php?topic=250.0
ping
He’s my favorite preacher!
We can only question the conservative media, because the MSM is not gonna report ANYTHING seriously detrimental or challenging to him. They ignored story after story that would have effectively ended his candidacy. They're no doubt hoping that all this goes away so that they never have to report it, given the way they sold out absolutely everything to put him in office.
As for the conservative media, they don't cover it because even though they're on the outside looking in on the horrific bias of the MSM, I think they desperately crave acceptance as part of the MSM. It's not enough to have wild success; they want and crave the RESPECT of their "peers" whom they perceive to be at the top of their profession. This applies even to Rush, who has appeared on many a MSM show only to be marginalized. Remember how he used to pal up with Russert and talk about how Russert was different? He wasn't different. He was a liberal schill like all the rest. But deep down in his soul, Rush wants to be accepted and respected as part of big media. This is IMHO why he and others haven't covered the citizenship issue.
MM (in TX)
Considering his parents met in Russian class, I don’t trust the motives either had.
Someone needs to take out a full page advert in the New York Slimes.
Barbra Streisand took one out slamming Bush, so they have to accept it.
Anybody know what a full page advert in the Slimes costs?
Not a peep in the MSM.
Yet a fake insignificant document about Bush got 24/7 coverage.
A rumor about McCain got published.
I was doing some research regarding when the legislation to change foreign borns to be eligible Constitutionally to become president happened. I was surprised to see the frequency of the introduction of the resolution. I’m not sure it has any bearing on the current lawsuit and respectfully leave it up to you to decide. Although I didn’t present the entire bills here, I did copy a snippet of each.
Also... a partial news article of interest.
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-6240731_ITM
Amendment would allow foreign-born citizens to run for president.
Byline: Jim Puzzanghera - dated 9/15/04
WASHINGTON _ Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, an Orange County, Calif., Republican and longtime friend of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, introduced a constitutional amendment Wednesday to allow foreign-born Americans who have been citizens for 20 years to run for president.
Schwarzenegger, who became a citizen in 1983, conveniently makes that cutoff. Now there are proposals by Republicans in both the GOP-controlled U.S. House and Senate, which could make the phrase “President Schwarzenegger” more of a possibility, if still a long shot.
“There’s a number of people I know whose career opportunities would be expanded by this constitutional amendment,” Rohrabacher said, mentioning Michigan Gov....
H. J. RES 88 — 2-29-00
H. J. RES 47 — 5-02-01
H. J. RES. 59 - June 11, 2003 - 108th Congress (1st session)
Mr. SNYDER (for himself, Mr. ISSA, and Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts)
oposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to permit persons who are not natural-born citizens of the United States , but who have been citizens of the United States for at least 35 years, to be eligible to hold the offices of President and Vice President .
A person who has been a citizen of the United States for at least 35 years and who has been a resident within the United States for at least 14 years shall be eligible to hold the office of President or Vice President
H. J. RES. 67 - Sept. 3, 2003 - 108th Congress (1st session)
Mr. CONYERS
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to make eligible for the Office of President a person who is not a natural born citizen of the United States but has been a United States citizen for at least 20 years.
H.J.RES.104 — sept. 15, 2004 - 108th Congress (2nd session)
Mr. DANA ROHRABACHER
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d108:12:./temp/~bd2xv6::|/bss/d108query.html|
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.J.RES.104:
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to make eligible for the Office of President a person who is not a natural born citizen of the United States but has been a United States citizen for at least 20 years.
H. J. RES. 15 - February 1, 2005 - 109th Congress (1st session)
Mr. DANA ROHRABACHER
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to make eligible for the Office of President a person who is not a natural born citizen of the United States but has been a United States citizen for at least 20 years
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:26:./temp/~mdbszVkwsH::
H. J. RES. 2 - January 4, 2005 - 109th Congress (1st session)
Mr. CONYERS (for himself and Mr. SHERMAN)
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to make eligible for the Office of President a person who is not a natural born citizen of the United States but has been a United States citizen for at least 20 years
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:27:./temp/~mdbssrwV47::
H. J. RES. 42 - April 14, 2005 - 109th Congress (1nd session)
Mr. SNYDER (for himself and Mr. SHAYS)
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to permit persons who are not natural-born citizens of the United States , but who have been citizens of the United States for at least 35 years, to be eligible to hold the offices of President and Vice President .
http://willnevergiveup.wordpress.com
Yes, the Founders were entirely rational. It's the democrats that are emotional...to the point of chasing out all rational thought.
Bttt....
Time machine bump.
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