Posted on 11/26/2008 8:54:48 AM PST by Amityschild
Does this Barack Obama birth certificate issue bug you because, although improbable, it's possible that he's not a natural born citizen, isn't eligible to be President under the Constitution, and this issue could be bigger than Watergate -- or any other "gate" in history?
Are you afraid that if you were even to raise the subject with your friends that they will think you wear a tinfoil hat, because Factcheck.org, the final arbiter of truth in the universe, said so?
Are you with the news media, and after spending so much money to get Barack Obama elected, you'd hate to ruin your investment?
Are you a talk radio host who thinks that if you say the burden of proof needed to demonstrate one is eligible to be Commander in Chief should be at least as high as, oh, say, the level to be eligible for Hawaiian homestead status (see 1.F. below), that you'd be forced to give equal time to someone who disagrees?
Are you a conservative, libertarian, or any conscientious constitutionalist from any ideological side of life, who's convinced something's not right, but you're afraid your reputation might be tarnished because, after all, this could be one big Saul-Alinsky-style set-up, and the joke would be on you?
Fear not! Joe the Farmer has prepared an outline showing that no matter how this issue is ultimately resolved, you have legitimate concerns, and that Barack Obama should, simply out of respect for the nation he was elected to lead, disclose the sealed vault copy of his birth certificate.
Given the circumstances, if Barack Obama respected this nation, he would prove it by the simplest and easiest of gestures - unless, of course, all this talk about change and hope was just a bunch of bull, and he's just "another politician."
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Maya Kasandra Soetoro, born in 1970. Maya Kasandra Soetoro is Obama’s half sister who was born in Indonesia and her birth was later registered in Hawaii.
I'm not positive that information is a fact but have seen it mentioned numerous times. I do know that Hawaii procedures permit registration of a birth certificate even if the child was born in a foreign country. Such a document would have to indicate the foreign country as place of birth. That is why it is important to get a copy of the long form BC. It will show if he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.
There is also the matter of his registration for the draft which has been forged also, the matter of his lying about his real name when he signed up as a candidate. One of the questions is did you ever hold any other name, his answer was no, which even the slightest check into his background shows up as a flat out lie.
This man owes the people of this country a look at his BC, he needs to prove he is eligible since the SoS of each state failed to vet him before certifying him. Once again, the burden of proof lies with Bozo the rat Ba***** candidate, the lying POS, the communist SOB who is going to be President elect when they count the electoral ballots if all his lying and BS are not brought to light.
I believe that while you may not, there are many that do actually hate him and the fact that he is the pres-elect. I have no idea why he doesn’t do as we say. I believe though, that silence only speaks to those that have already decided what they want to hear.
Which state has certified the COLB? My guess is not a single one.
Thank you! I really appreciate the info!
BUMP
You are an odd bird.
Even if the LPOS is not lying, he has done enough damage and cost the nation enough money unnecessarily to show he isn't worthy to be president. Definitely a steenking elitist.
Perhaps because they didn't use any documents to do so?
You don’t think that if the tables were turned, the libs wouldn’t be trying to get our pres-elects birth certificate and that we wouldn’t be mocking them for the effort?
NOT that he is constitutionally qualified to be President
That alone says it all.
What we already said when we expected John McCain to produce his BC and explain his claim to being natural born in the USA.
I agree wholeheartedly. When factcheck.org posts pictures of the actual birth certificate and news clippings of the birth announcement, it doesn’t matter if he was born in the USA or not. He has the documentation showing that he was born in the USA and that is all the courts would ever go on.
This is a dead issue and when it is brought up, images of tinfoil show up on the heads of those that engage in this and they are instantly discredited.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-likely-born-in-hawaii/
I am hoping that this isn’t the dawning of Vince Foster, Mena airport conservatism all over again. Instead of chasing this stuff, I say stick to old fashioned arguments in the realm of ideas and converting voters.
“So, there’s only one other option....”
Watching him re-eastablish the Clinton Administration, I’m not altogether certain Hillary has’nt got it in her back pocket......
Because, ultimately, I believe in our govt and our country.
Exactly right. If there’s a BC what’s the harm of producing it? Seems it should have been part and parcel to his CV for POTUS during vetting.
Of course [the Constitution] was a flawed document. I happen to agree with him here when he said it was a flawed document with a blindspot.You believe that the Framers in 1780's viewed black people as less than human? Is that right? That is what you said.The blindspot being that a majority of the framers (and most of society at the time) viewed black people as less than human. This was later corrected, or perfected, with the addition of the 14th amendment.
To me, while I know that Chief Justice Tanney in 1858 ruled that any persons of African negro descent where less than full humans, and that his sentiment reflected many of the time -- it may not have reflected that of most, for that is why we had that most bloody of wars, the Civil War. Moreover his view was of that time when the institution of slavery using solely African slaves was long established.
As I understand in 1787 the concern was that slave-owners would order the slaves to vote in a certain way, and the 4/5's arrangement was NOT to indicate that black men were not less men, but that any men who were not "free men" were subject to be ordered to vote a set way, and in fact to dilute the vote of the non-free, of those whose vote could be "owned", was an effective method of giving those who wanted to abolish slavery the edge over the slaver owners. Better in that regard if it could have been even a smaller fraction, for then slavery might have been abolished without the great bloody war and all the harms that have followed.
Yet I bring up this old post of yours to hold YOU to account for a truly vile, odious and strange regard for the framers of the Constitution. That attitude of disregard would seem to inform your view of the need to confirm the circumstance of Obama's birth.
For it is that the State of Hawaii itself says, re the COLB, that it alone may not used for official purposes. And what more serious an official purpose than that of making sure the Constitution is upheld for the very man most powerful under grant of its power?
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