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Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue Is Legitimate
American Thinker ^ | November 26, 2008 | Joe the Farmer

Posted on 11/26/2008 8:54:48 AM PST by Amityschild

Does this Barack Obama birth certificate issue bug you because, although improbable, it's possible that he's not a natural born citizen, isn't eligible to be President under the Constitution, and this issue could be bigger than Watergate -- or any other "gate" in history?

Are you afraid that if you were even to raise the subject with your friends that they will think you wear a tinfoil hat, because Factcheck.org, the final arbiter of truth in the universe, said so?

Are you with the news media, and after spending so much money to get Barack Obama elected, you'd hate to ruin your investment?

Are you a talk radio host who thinks that if you say the burden of proof needed to demonstrate one is eligible to be Commander in Chief should be at least as high as, oh, say, the level to be eligible for Hawaiian homestead status (see 1.F. below), that you'd be forced to give equal time to someone who disagrees?

Are you a conservative, libertarian, or any conscientious constitutionalist from any ideological side of life, who's convinced something's not right, but you're afraid your reputation might be tarnished because, after all, this could be one big Saul-Alinsky-style set-up, and the joke would be on you?

Fear not! Joe the Farmer has prepared an outline showing that no matter how this issue is ultimately resolved, you have legitimate concerns, and that Barack Obama should, simply out of respect for the nation he was elected to lead, disclose the sealed vault copy of his birth certificate.

Given the circumstances, if Barack Obama respected this nation, he would prove it by the simplest and easiest of gestures - unless, of course, all this talk about change and hope was just a bunch of bull, and he's just "another politician."

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; obama
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To: Amityschild
'Ours is not to wonder why,
Ours is just to do or die!


21 posted on 11/26/2008 9:27:47 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Amityschild
If it turns out Obama does not qualify for POTUS - we are still ruled by the Constitution even though many judges prefer international law - then he has to leave office and Biden becomes POTUS.
22 posted on 11/26/2008 9:29:52 AM PST by Dante3
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To: mnehrling
All the Secretaries of State certified his candidacy.

No they didn't. They merely certified the vote count. None of them certified whether he was qualified to hold the office. There's no process to do that. That's why, in 7 states, people sued the state to have them prove he was qualified, and judges told the plaintiffs they didn't have standing, or that the court wouldn't hear the case. The one in NJ, I believe, has made it all the way to the US Supreme Court. There is a hearing on December 5th, ten days prior to the Electoral College votes being tallied.

23 posted on 11/26/2008 9:35:44 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: stuartcr

I said it before, I’ll say it again. “Mr. Obama, why lawer up, when you can pony up?”


24 posted on 11/26/2008 9:37:24 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Ever notice that Obama supporters chant "O-Bahm-AH" while McCain/Palin supporters chant "U-S-A".)
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To: mnehrling

Many of the states had the commie party nominee as well. This person was known to have been born outside the U.S.A. and is known to not be a “natural born citizen.” That argument is a no go.


25 posted on 11/26/2008 9:38:53 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Ever notice that Obama supporters chant "O-Bahm-AH" while McCain/Palin supporters chant "U-S-A".)
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To: Amityschild; All
People ... Obama has not contested that he held dual-citizenship at birth! Dual citizenship at birth precludes a natural born status! The POTUS cannot be beholding to a foreign government. The *only* exception to this rule made in the Constitution is for those individuals alive at the time the Constitution was adopted. Obama is ineligible, period. The birth certificate is interesting, and I'm sure it contains something embarrassing for Obama. But let's keep our eye on the eight ball. By his own admissions, he is ineligible. He knows it, and half the population has been duped.
26 posted on 11/26/2008 9:43:01 AM PST by so_real
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To: mnehrling
This is a classic example of “No controlling authority.” There is no mechanism in place to adjudicate this, and Obama’s not about to set a precedent if doesn't have to. That's probably why he won't release the “vault copy.”
27 posted on 11/26/2008 9:46:47 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: LottieDah

I believe that he has done what is legally required to prove his citizenship to the proper people, otherwise he wouldn’t be the pres-elect. Realistically though, why should he produce it just to satisfy those people that hate him?


28 posted on 11/26/2008 9:55:02 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: blade_tenner; stuartcr
I disagree. Hawaii has laws regarding the ability of individuals to acquire birth certificates. These laws must be respected. The "accidental leak" of embarrassing materials in violation of these laws would make FR and all other conservative folks look foolish. Being driven by agenda in violation of the law is not the image conservatives want to have. Save that for the other side. The side effect of the governor's actions is also to preserve a legitimate an unaltered copy; which may have tremendous value later on. But ... like I've said in other posts ... the real crime is the uncontested dual-citizenship. The birth certificate is interesting, but the dual-citizenship case is entirely winnable.
29 posted on 11/26/2008 9:56:04 AM PST by so_real
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To: Jeff Head
If this isn't resolved before he is sworn in, it will not be resolved, period! If it isn't resolved, it going to be difficult if not impossible for anyone to turn chaos into order. The only thing that is keeping things at an even keel even now is the hope and belief that the system is going to work and will eject all wannabes, intruders, and masqueraders before they can do irreparable damage to the system.

We've been lucky so far. Over 200 years and nary a threat or a plot that hasn't been uncovered and dealt with successfully.

To think that we may be just days away from total anarchy is mind boggling.

30 posted on 11/26/2008 9:56:20 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Amityschild
The original birth certificate of anyone running for POTUS should be made public. Citizenship status is a Constitutional requirement for the job. What is Obama hiding?
31 posted on 11/26/2008 9:58:30 AM PST by Dante3
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To: mnehrling

Apparently, those people that could obtain this document, don’t think much about his grandmothers statement. If it were the other way around, we would be mocking anyone that put any credence on his grandmothers statements...besides, there really is no evidence.


32 posted on 11/26/2008 9:58:44 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: Amityschild

What would we be saying, if it were the other way around?


33 posted on 11/26/2008 9:59:44 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: nufsed

OK


34 posted on 11/26/2008 10:00:36 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: Amityschild

Thanks for this article. I am sending it to my email list.


35 posted on 11/26/2008 10:02:24 AM PST by Katarina
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To: cripplecreek

Well, this ain’t middle school and credibility is important.


36 posted on 11/26/2008 10:02:59 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: mnehrling
The problem isn’t the ‘possibility’ he isn’t a natural born citizen, the problem is, he has been certified by all the States and the State of Hawaii has certified the COLB.

I must respectfully disagree. He has been certified by the States as being the Democrat Nominee for President - NOT that he is constitutionally qualified to be President. That is the substance of the Donofrio suit, which is currently in conference before the Supreme Court.

The State of Hawaii has certified that Obama has a birth certificate on record, but they have not indicated that the birth certificate actually says he was born in Hawaii. As another poster pointed out, his Indonesian-born sister has a COLB on file in Hawaii, too.

The burden of proof remains on Obama to prove that he is Constitutionally qualfied to be President. Of the three requirements (age, residency, and natural birth status), the birth certificate proves two of them.

37 posted on 11/26/2008 10:04:00 AM PST by Terabitten (To all RINOs: You're expendable. Sarah isn't.)
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To: stuartcr

I do not hate him nor know of any REP’s that hate him....but if you want to spend 600million to be president of the single most powerful country on Earth, why not just show the darn thing and get this crap over with? Silence is like saying “yes, I am a fraud”. He should be singing like a canary. His narcissism prevents this, though. And unfortunately, there is no cure for the mental woes of this man.


38 posted on 11/26/2008 10:07:12 AM PST by Conservation Carmen
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To: blade_tenner

Why do you think she has to explain anything to us? The govt does lots of stuff, that they don’t explain to us, or feel the need to.


39 posted on 11/26/2008 10:07:48 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: so_real

I guess we’ll have to wait and see what happens.


40 posted on 11/26/2008 10:08:52 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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