Posted on 11/24/2008 11:12:41 PM PST by BonRad
http://atlah.org/broadcast/manningreport.html
FPeeper "seekthetruth" had this url of NICE LITTLE WEBCAST in comment early in thread under another title I can't find now and its getting late and this definitely deserves its own thread:
My comment: Nov 25 08 webcast Rev Manning is VERY much up on this! He is doing it without notes! Hes emphasizing all right points- ESPECIALLY the 81 Pakistan trip. Id change a few things but hes got it pretty well down.
Thanx so for the link/post seekthetruth- 1st time I've encountered the man and his disposition is VERY good. His plea: Why are you doing this America? ...said numerous times in EXCELLENT voice, temper, cadence, you name it. BARACK OBAMA IS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN AND THE 1981 TRIP TO PAKISTAN WAS IMPOSSIBLE (I add for anyone NEAR being a regular US citizen-just to make Farah and WND happy as per their Aug 23 disclaimer they seem to have shed without acknowledgement-do correct me if Im wrong, as alaways ) UNLESS IT WAS WITH INDONESIAN PASSPORT. I do think Manning mis-speaks in that he says there is utter & irrefutable proof of it that Ive seen from semi-serious looks at Bergs matter. I dont see matter as presentable with verifyable chain of custody now, or else itd be produced w/ scan into website. Id have to listen again but think this is only mistake he makes to my mind. Prior to this, he properly builds the case as he notes generally accepted (by COLB-chasers, and he even cites the thin paper required for the 2007 laser copy per the Polarik finding) scenarios but he dismisses them without stating their bearing (and leaves open they on their own merits could condemn). But he and I agree on the real damning crux: dual citizenship in Indonesia and acknowledgement of such by time he was already well legally an adult, which is what he emphasizes in his later short presentation.
What CAN be said on the 1981 Pakistan trip is that there can be no other conclusion, and thus IS an utter and irrefutable conclusion. Doubling this condemnation is the Selective Service registration card forgery (clear failure to register at required time) , and say you get another half point on the blockage of college entry admission records to Occidental College, and another two quarters total for same for Columbia and Harvard. Its TRIPLY sure IMHO. All the excuses go away ( he was just a kid , Soetoro adoption + /or marriage +/ or divorce not traceable in US , everyone in that Pacific Rim (before we called it that) world at the murky time who had any cash and was sufficiently cavalier could find and hold old passport ., student taken with fancies into bad ideas as so many then , didnt know he had to re-patriate in civilly acceptable manner-between 18-21 per then-applicable law - per Berg , ).
He quite simply deliberately and maliciously did not remand his Indonesian status and renewed at five year intervals (his 15th year at least- Im using Manning here, just not up on this one) the Indonesian passport.
Its as correct as saying a man was shot by another in an enclosed room at a time when police (who had been called by witnesses who remained at the scene) were present and were surrounding the place, all hearing the eventual survivor threatening the eventual victim. They all hear the shot and police enter to see the gun and a dead man on the floor, powder burns on the standing shooter's hands, bloodspatter being utterly and irrefutably consistent with shooter as standing and victim as lying dead.
What a stinking dirtball Barack Obama is. A snake. Office of the President Elect. A stinking, putrid, slimy joke.
This Harlem minister does so very well in temper I cant compliment him enough.
Just wish hed drop the re-naming of Harlem as Atlah, no matter where he got it. Keep it for the website if you want, Rev. You've done a great job here!
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"OPRAH IS THE ANTICHRIST!!!"
(I was honored and thrilled) PREACH IT, Brother Manning!
((I crack up every time he calls BO.... Tarzan))
I subscribe to Manning’s youtube channel. A courageous man.
I passed this guy off as some “quack” when I first heard about him, but after seeing some of his videos, talk about a man who has some courage. I may not agree with his way of presenting his ideas (mostly the language he uses), but I cannot argue with his viewpoints that I have seen so far.
Who is we? Speak for yourself.
If people were only so stupid and shallow to read into Dr. Fukino’s statement as you have, there would not be 2 cases now pending review in the Supreme Court, and 15 others still pending at the state level.
Please quote, verbatim, where Dr. Fukino states the details regarding his actual birth location, hospital, doctor,...etc.
Of course he has a “legitimate” birth certificate on file in the state of Hawaii. So did my father in the state of New York, despite the fact that he was born in Europe, in 1925.
I am sure you have recognized how long the dreamer of dreams and the music maker of post 6 has been with FR.
Therefore, I ... have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obamas original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
It only says the BC is there; it doesn’t say what verbiage is typed on it. Sheesh; didn’t you learn anything from Clinton-speak double-talk?
I never heard of Paster Manning until this post. He sure outlines the Obama BC issue well starting at the 14 minute mark.
The minions of the future president-elect must be running scared if they are stuck paying people like yourself to try and make his Kenyan-birth issue disappear.
Tell them it is too late.
Too many people question his illegitmate candidacty.
Too many ancillary documents that will reveal the truth.
Too many lawsuits attacking his false claims of legitimacy.
Too many FReepers are hot on his trail of deceit.
Vancouverite- you’ve got quite a ways to go.
To you (slightly-it’ll take you a while to get to this point I think) and others (mostly), I HIGHLY suggest the
greatest attempt I see online to unravel what I and Manning agree is the crux, or may I say main thrust:
The Paper Trail: Obamas Indonesian Background
July 29, 2008 by texasdarlin
By Judah Benjamin, Guest Author
[Revised 7/30/08 5:00 PM EST: The author has revised the Conclusion section]
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-paper-trail-obamas-indonesian-background/
BonRad here crops this little part out- one can try to maintain as a couple commenters do Indonesian citizenship never took, but EVEN IN THE BEST CASE made be detractors and THEN TOO ENTIRELY IGNORING the British-via-Kenyan EXTREMELY VALID argument EVEN IF BAM BAM were born in Hawaii etc, he has committed what can easily be labelled MAJOR felony / felonies of identity fraud by clearly having had to renew (procure?-did he and Mom return to US in 1971 -he 10 yrs old-on US passports??) Indonesian passport at 15 (BTW JB here does have the ref to renewal req’d at 5 yr intervals- I forgot where I’d seen it before Manning said it) AND using 5 yrs later (if not AGAIN having to renew, at least initially procuring) it to go to see what his Occidental studies hero Frantz Fanon (see “Dreams...”) might want to know about Paki WHILE he had failed to fill a Selective Service registration form
(see that one yet V?):
“You may care, at this point, to Google US Code: Title 18 § 4. Misprision of felony. It seems to me that if one is aware that a fraud is being perpetrated and does nothing about it this applies. In New York State, of course, misprision also covers intent to cause a false impression., hmm. Actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea, look it up folks. And while you are at it look up mens rea. Try wikipedia, maybe. The US Code also contains Misprision of Treason, I think, hmm.”
You joined today to debunk the BC questions?
So, in your expert opinion, why doesn’t BO just show the BC?
So, how do you feel about your vote for 0bama earlier this month?
What's on it that causes Obama to fight its release so hard?
C’mon, tell me.
I'll believe it when it is authenticated and I see it.
There is empirical evidence demonstrating that Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth and his Selective Service registration are both counterfeit.
How do we know what a bureaucrat saw?
This 0bama bootlicker has only two comments, signed up today, both to lick 0bama’s boots.
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