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Conservatives are getting off their backsides and mobilizing to take back the Republican Party. Groups like this one in Washington are springing up like daisies all over the nation. It's great news for conservatism and bad news for RINOs. Roll up your sleeves and get involved. If you can't find a group in your area, why not start one yourself? The folks at this site say they'd be delighted to network with other grassroots conservatives, exchange links, and assist other groups in getting started. You can contact them at http://skagitrepublican.typepad.com
1 posted on 11/24/2008 11:39:24 AM PST by torqemada
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The simplest course would indeed be to take back the GOP. Problem is, all the RINOs and others in positions of power that don’t want that.

Starting a new Conservative Party would take longer, but onbalance may be a faster means to the desired end. In other words, spending the next 3 to 10 years creating a new party vs. spending the same amount of time bickering and fighting with the likes of Huckabee, Romney, McCain, Graham, Hagel, et al who think the party should move closer to the left.


2 posted on 11/24/2008 11:46:28 AM PST by bigbob
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"So, let us go forth with good cheer and stout hearts -- happy warriors out to seize back a country and a world to freedom." -Ronald Reagan
3 posted on 11/24/2008 11:46:50 AM PST by LiberConservative (Typical white guy)
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We handed Bush the world on a platter.....

He gave us a demorat majority....

I walked districts in 2000 & 2004, did not vote in the last 2 elections......

It will take the socialist left to energize the party the Bush’s killed....

We will never be a great party until we are willing to hold our own accountable.

IMHO


4 posted on 11/24/2008 11:55:04 AM PST by glasseye
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I’m afraid it is already too late. We have not done what needed to be done over the years.

Did nothing when the left nationalized education, banks, mortgage industry.

Hell I don’t think anything will get conservatives to rise up.


5 posted on 11/24/2008 11:57:20 AM PST by stockpirate (At least Code Pink fights for what they believe in!!!!!!)
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There’s a label problem here. “Conservative” means just that, people who do not want radical change in any direction. They want to be society’s inertia, not its momentum. Putting the “conservative” label on everyone in the “right wing” makes as much sense as a football team that only plays defense.

Let’s face it, the “conservative” side plays enough defense. We need part of our side that plays offense, and need an appropriate label that isn’t “conservative.” They are the momentum of the right.

We are still suffering from the days of Barry Goldwater, when the right wing was vilified by the left. Any and every other label for those on the right was turned into an invective, a curse. The most common was “reactionary”, which had a bizarre context, like they wanted to return to the Stone Age and live in caves (something only Al Gore would want.)

This happened because, while the left has no problem calling anyone on the right a “Nazi” or a “fascist”, the right has always been hesitant about calling out the radical leftists, even when the label was dead on accurate, and even when the left was proud of being called “communist” and words like that. The right was abashed to call anyone a communist, because communism was so evil and filthy.

And, of course, Hollywood spent years to convince the public that the right was far more evil and filthy than anything the left, even hard core communists could do. Communists were never, ever bad, in their image to the public.

So here we are. The vast majority of the right, and truthfully, of the public as a whole, is “conservative”. The other factions in the Republican party are not philosophical factions, but are founded on other ideas.

Like the “Country Club Republicans”, who we now call RINOs, who are more liberal, and preferred to be in the minority party for years of Democrat rule. They liked the policies of the Democrats, but detested them personally, seeing them as lower class. But they see most people, right wing too, as lower class.

Then there is the “Business Republicans”, who are fixated on big business and want to ignore social policy. There is *so* much to thank them for right now.

Then there is the extreme right, right wing, that would be a lot easier to get along with if they weren’t so isolationist. Or at least able to distinguish internationalism, which most of us don’t like, from a strong overseas military presence and engagement, which the rest of us do. Let’s face it, closing our borders won’t keep enemy missiles out, and global thermonuclear retaliatory war is not a reasonable alternative to lesser means used before things get out of hand. We have no choice but to kick tyrant’s rear ends periodically.

So how do the “conservatives” split into two teams? We all agree that we need an offense, whose purpose is *not* just to “hold that line”, but to push the left back to their goal line.

We can’t just stop socialized medicine, we have to privatize those parts of medicine that have already been “governmentized”.

We can’t just live with the leftist infiltration into the State Department, the CIA, the National Weather Service, NASA, etc., blatantly corrupting public offices for partisan political goals. Those people have to be kicked out and replaced with others who will do their job.

Perhaps 25% of the US government has no constitutional authority to exist, so it should be discontinued. Almost all of the western lands taken by the federal government should be returned to the States. etc., etc., etc.

And the right wing “not conservatives” who do this need a label to rally around.


6 posted on 11/24/2008 12:17:50 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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I’m getting rather bored with these nebulous let’s take back our party threads. I’m all for optimism, however I think that there is a fundamental lack of understading of who we are and what we are facing.

The Democrat party is willing do anything to gain and keep power. They will cheat, steal, assault and as we saw with the Weather Underground and FALN, will murder to get what they want.

We have election fraud taking place right in front of our faces. Obama supporting District Attorney’d decree that they will prosecute anyone criticizing Obama. What in the world makes Conservatives believe that the Demcorats are just going to simply let us back on the field for a nice fair game of political football?

If Democrats thought they could get away with it they would kill the lot of us.

I don’t think rhetoric is going to be enough. Some of us are going to have to give up our freedom for the rest.


7 posted on 11/24/2008 1:05:12 PM PST by Ajnin
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