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To: torqemada

The simplest course would indeed be to take back the GOP. Problem is, all the RINOs and others in positions of power that don’t want that.

Starting a new Conservative Party would take longer, but onbalance may be a faster means to the desired end. In other words, spending the next 3 to 10 years creating a new party vs. spending the same amount of time bickering and fighting with the likes of Huckabee, Romney, McCain, Graham, Hagel, et al who think the party should move closer to the left.


2 posted on 11/24/2008 11:46:28 AM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

It’s not just those guys (who I cant stand.) GWB has led us off a cliff, more than one, and gave Obama/Pelosi keys to public wanting socialism. GB senior left us in a much better situation in 1993, he was liked and endless deficit spending by Clinton was NOT an option.


8 posted on 11/24/2008 1:19:32 PM PST by sickoflibs (Democrats for Issues, Republicans for Solutions (sometimes really bad) , which wins elections?)
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To: bigbob

Of course the RINOs don’t want this. Tough titty. I’m more willing to work to rehabilitate the GOP than to walk away and poor money and sweat into a third party that will have almost zero chance of electing anyone to office for the next 40 years. What I find encouraging about this grassroots movement is that they are focusing on local party politics with the aim of developing and electing solid conservative candidates for city councils, county councils, school boards, port districts, and state legislative districts. It’s at the local level that the future leaders of our state and national government learn how to campaign, get elected, and govern. Moreover, if conservatives can hold a majority in local and state governance, they more likely to hold a majority at the national level.

One final point, one of the biggest failings of the Republican party is that moderates and RINOs have muddled the message about the core values and ideas of the party to such an extent, they have been unable to deliver a coherent message to the voter on how Republican ideology differs from Democrats, why Republican candidates deserve their vote, and what Republicans intend to do for the people when elected. Worse, yet, these RINOs who’ve been elected have become no better than the tax and spend Democrats, once in office. They neither talk the talk, nor walk the walk of true, conservative Republicanism. They are frauds - to the Party of Lincoln and to the American people. The conservative base of the Republican Party allowed these frauds to grab power and has even helped elect them to office. The base giveth and the base can taketh away. I believe it should and it will.

The thing about grassroots movements is that they effect bottom up change. It make take 8 years for conservative Republicans to regain a majority in Congress or reclaim the White House. In the interim, however, solid Republican officials can make a difference and positively impact the everyday lives of Americans in their cities, their counties, and their state. That, I believe, is worth fighting for.


9 posted on 11/24/2008 2:27:57 PM PST by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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