Posted on 11/20/2008 9:04:03 AM PST by trialbyfire
This is my first time posting so please let me know if I should have done something differently. I spoke with Dr Orly Taitz (Esq) about the lawsuit that she has filed in California. She would like as many people as possible to get involved. She told me that she grew up in Russia and knows first hand what life is like in a Totalitarian State. Here is the information that she sent: the shows I've been at are as follows
Jan Mickelson 515-245-8862
Lan Lamphere 405-307-0752
Peter Boyles 303-847-6267
Wiley Drake 714-865-8132
will be probably later today on Joe Thunder 909-214-0329
will be back on Peter Boyles on Friday
Tom Hoefling was on a station in Baltimore
Steven Malzberg NY
articles in Orange County Register -largest Circulation here in OC
NBC Augusta, GA
Drudge report
World News Daily
all of the bloggosphere
yesterday at the White House press conference Bush's press secretary Dana Perrina was asked, if Pres. Bush is concerned about Barack Obama not being eligible for presidency based on the fact that according to the Alan Keyes law suit, he is not a natural born citizen, her response reportedly was "we think, we are fine on that'
I believe we need to do the following:
we need to write to all the government officials listed in the attachments, including pres Bush, that due to the fact that Mr. Obama refused to provide proof of eligibility (Hawaii allows to issue birth certificates to children of Hawaiian residents, that are born abroad, and issue them based on a statement of one realtive only) , he cannot be certified as President and he cannot receive National Security CIA briefings.
We believe all the Secretaries of State should give Mr. Obama 24 hours to sign the consent for release of any and all documents, verifying his eligibility, including, but not limited to a certified copy of his original birth certificate with the name and the signature of the doctor and the name of the hospital, certified copy of the birthing records from the hospital noted in the birth certificate, any and all passports with all the immigration stamps, application and registration forms from Columbia university, Harvard college, Occidental College and the schools in Indonesia, that Mr. Obama attended; and official response from the Governments of Great Britain, Kenya and Indonesia in regards to Mr. Obama's citizenship status in those countries. If Mr. Obama refuses to provide such consent, or if the consent is provided, but the documents show him to be ineligible, no Secretary of State and no Governor of State has any legal right to sign the Certificate of Ascertainment, no Elector has any legal right to sign a certificate of vote, since doing so will constitute aiding and abetting fraud in voting and punishable by up to 3 years in jail (California election code 18500) and similarly punishable by corresponding statutes in other states of the union, it possibly can be viewed as aiding and abeting commission of treason.
This has to be forwarded to all the media outlets. We need to write to the media, that American citizens are reasonably relying on them to provide them with information in regards to such issues of National Importance. Refusal by Media to publish information in regards to Mr. Obama's status as a British Citizen by birth and other issues relating to his lack of eligibility to be the President of the US, is de facto aiding and abetting commission of fraud in voting and elections (see above).
I believe we should contact all sponsors and all advertisers and all citizens that believe in the Constitution of this country an demand that they boycott all the media outlets that refuse to air this information that is akin to a Constitutional crisis. We should start a recall of all the Governors and Secretaries of States that sign the certificates of Ascertainment without proof of eligibility. No member of US military can be expected to risk his life under orders of a Commander in Chief, who was not willing to produce proof of his eligibility for office, no order or law signed by somebody, who was not proven to be eligible will be valid. We have to stop this constitutional crisis.
Orly Taitz Esq
26302 La Paz ste 211 Mission Viejo Ca 92691
29839 S. Margarita Pkwy Rancho Santa Margarita Ca 92688 ph. w 949-586-8110 c-949-683-5411 fax 949-586-2082 ______________________________________
to read the actual lawsuit go to the link at the bottom of the article located here: http://missionviejodispatch.com/2008/11/16/will-mv-dentist-remove-barack-obamas-smile/
Dr Taitz is asking us to fax Justice Clarence Thomas at 202-479-2971 and tell him that we want him to review the complaint against Obama expediently. She also suggested that we let Justice Thomas know what Obama thinks of him. Here is what Obama said about Justice Thomas at Rick Warren's Faith Forum : "I would not have nominated Clarence Thomas. I don't think that he - I don't think that he was a strong enough jurist or legal thinker at the time for that elevation, setting aside the fact that I profoundly disagree with his interpretations of a lot of the Constitution."
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Here is a copy of the letter that she drafted that we can send to the Governors and Secretaries of State. I added the email addresses for the Govs and State Secretaries below the letter.
We the People of the United States of America Urgent Appeal 11.11.08. Attention: Governors of States, Secretaries of States, Attorney Generals, FBI Officials, Homeland Security Officials, State Department Officials, Immigration and Customs Enforcement Officials, Federal Elections Committee, Electors and Electoral College, Congressmen, Senators, State, Federal and Supreme Court Judges, Election Officials:
This letter is to put you on notice in regards to the following troubling facts:
1) From August 21 until now some 17 legal actions were filed all over this nation and at least 16 more are about to be filed shortly: those were individual or class actions, in different State and Federal courts. The plaintiffs: US citizens, voters, electors, different Party officials and candidates for office are alleging that Mr. Obama’s eligibility for Presidency was never verified by any governmental agency and mounting evidence suggests that he does not qualify as a Natural Born citizen and therefore cannot be sworn as the President of the United States. These actions were not heard on merits yet. The first action, filed by the former Deputy Attorney general of the State of Pennsylvania, Phillip J Berg against Mr. Obama and DNC, titled Berg v Obama el all is currently in the Supreme Court, awaiting resolution of question, whether a voter has standing to bring an issue of eligibility to court. Regardless of the Court decision on this matter, other parties with superior standing have filed similar actions. A second case has reached the Supreme Court recently. This case was filed by New Jersey attorney, Leo C Donofrio against the Secretary of State of New Jersey Nina Mitchell Wells. Mr. Donofrio states in his legal action that Ms. Wells did not fulfill her duties and did not verify the eligibility of the candidates. For example, she allowed on the ballot not only Mr. Obama, but another candidate, representing Labor party, that admitted that he is not a Natural Born citizen, but was rather born in Nicaragua. The very State and Federal officials that took the oath of office to uphold the Constitution, are trampling all over the Constitution and our rights as citizens to elect a candidate that is eligible to be the President according to the Constitution.
2) Numerous voters, concerned citizens have turned to the offices of the Secretaries of States and found out that none of the Secretaries of States verified Mr. Obama’s eligibility. Routinely the Secretaries of States simply allowed Mr. Obama to sign a form, stating that he is able to perform the function of the President without any independent verification that his statement is truthful and correct.
3) Numerous voters and concerned citizens have contacted the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) and found out that FEC did not do any verification of Mr. Obama’s eligibility either. FEC representatives have stated that they are dealing with financial aspects of the campaign, and even that was not done by the FEC, since for roughly half of the 650 million raised by Mr. Obama, there was no documentation, no names of the donors and there were numerous reports that there is a high probability that at least 65 million came from non US citizens.
4) There was no investigative reporting in the Press, since predominantly liberal media was pushing for Obama for president and was unwilling to show journalistic integrity and investigate or report anything negative in regards to Mr. Obama.
5) Most of the States in the Union contain statues in the election codes, that characterize election fraud or aiding and abetting election fraud, as a felony, punishable by lengthy jail terms. For example, California election statue 18500 states: “ Any person, who commits fraud and any person who aids and abets fraud or attempts to abet fraud, in connection with any vote cast, to be cast, is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for 16 months or two years or three years”
6) We, the people, the citizens of this country demand that all of you do not aid or abet commission of fraud, do not subject yourselves and others to the possible charges of aiding and abetting fraud and investigate the following facts:
a. according to affidavits presented in the Berg v. Obama to the Supreme Court, Sarah Obama, Mr.Obama’s paternal grandmother has repeatedly stated that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and she was present at the hospital, when he was born, which means that Mr. Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen and not qualified for Presidency. (based on 1952 code)
b. Mr. Obama has responded by posting on his web site “Fight the Smears” a “short version” form of Certification of Live Birth’, but categorically refused to provide a copy of a vault or (long version birth certificate), that would provide for a name of a hospital and a name and signature of the doctor. This is crucial, since the State of Hawaii allows residents of Hawaii to register in the state of Hawaii the birth of their children, born in another state or another country, such as Kenya. Please see in attachment a sample Certificate of Live Birth, Box 7C, asks for the County or State or other country of birth.(this provision exists due to the fact that numerous Hawaiians historically worked outside of the state, mostly on Solomon islands and Guadalcanal). This document also has provisions for the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor. Additionally, Hawaii became a State in 1959, only two years before Mr. Obama’s birth. At a time numerous residents of Hawaii did not have birth certificates, therefore the state of Hawaii allowed residents born from 1902 until 1971 to obtain a different document called Certification of Hawaiian birth, that could be obtained simply by the statement made by a relative without any corroborating evidence. Therefore the short version birth certificate, posted by Mr. Obama on his web site, could’ve been based on an affidavit made by his mother or most probably by one of his grandparents, that he was born in Hawaii, even if he actually was born in Kenya. This could’ve been done not because Mr. Obama’s relatives thought that he would run for president one day, but simply to avoid the hustle and expense of going through some eight years of immigration procedures.
c. As of now no one was able to locate any hospital in Hawaii, any nurse, any doctor that would provide any evidence that Mr. Obama indeed was born on Hawaii.
d. Mr. Obama refused to provide any documents in Berg v Obama case.
e. Mr. Obama refused to consent to release of his vault or long version birth certificate.
f. Mr. Obama refused to consent to release of any records by any hospitals. g. Madelyn Dunham, his maternal grandmother remained silent and never refuted the statements that Mr. Obama was not born in Hawaii and no access was ever allowed to any reporters to ask Mrs. Madelyne Dunham one single question: “in what hospital on Hawaii was Mr. Obama born?’
h. Even if Mr. Obama would’ve been born in Hawaii (all the evidence states otherwise), he would’ve lost his citizenship by virtue of moving to Indonesia and obtaining Indonesian citizenship. Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship and Ms. Ann Dunham- Obama-Soetoro had to relinquish her son’s US citizenship in order to gain Indonesian citizenship.
i . In 1981, during the ban on travel to Pakistan for US citizens, Mr. Obama by his own admission had travelled to Pakistan. The only reasonable explanation, is that he did it using his Indonesian passport and using his prior name Barry Soetoro or his Kenyan passport, since he was entitled to the Kenyan citizenship, due to his father’s Kenyan citizenship (in 1963 Mombasa area became a part of Kenya), or he could’ve had a passport of British protected person, since at the time of his birth, in 1961, the area of Mombasa (his fathers homeland) was not independent yet (not until 1963) and was called Omani Sultanate of Zanzibar, British Protected Area. (it was ruled at the time by the Royal family from Oman and was part of British Protected areas).
Based on all of the above Mr. Obama was never a Natural born citizen, and he would’ve lost his natural born status, even if he had it by virtue of getting an Indonesian Citizenship, and he has divided allegiance and cannot become the President of the US. We the People, citizens of the United States of America, demand that you investigate these acts and refrain from certifying the vote or signing the Certificate of Ascertainment (to be signed by the Governors and Secretaries of States before the December 15 vote by the electors.) We demand that the Electors of the Electoral College refrain from signing the Certificate of Vote until there is verification of eligibility of Mr. Obama by properly authenticated documents, such as vault (long version) birth certificate, that shows the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor in Hawaii, birthing records from the hospital in Hawaii, certified copies of all and any passports held with immigration stamps, particularly immigration stamps from Pakistan from 1981, school enrollment records from Indonesia, Occidental college, Columbia University and Harvard college, that would show citizenship listed at the time of application. We demand that proper investigation would be done and, if the above facts and allegations are found to be true and correct, Mr. Obama be de-certified of the ballot.
We, the People of the United States of America, the land of law and order, the land of Constitution
Contact the Governors: http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/govemail.html
Contact the State Secretaries: http://www.rockthevote.com/voting-is-easy/the-voting-process/contact-sos/
Contact the 535 Electors (not sure of the accuracy): http://mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2008/11/electors-contact-site.html
I’ve already written to my congressman about introducing a bill to clarify the whole vetting process.
Very good. In the meantime, maybe we can flood the “powers that be” with requests to make sure that they don’t nullify the Constitution by letting this guy into office without first scrutinizing a vault copy of his birth certificate.
Ping for later read.
oh stop with this nonsense and let’s rebuild our party.
there’s no shortcuts here folks. we start at the beginning... get rid of RINOs from the party. make sure we get strong, red-blooded CONSERVATIVES with conviction on the ballot. And we work our butts off to get them elected. do you really think that if this was not proved over a TWO FREAKIN YEAR election that it is going to be in the next two months. buck up, play the cards you’re dealt, and fight them tooth and nail with conservative values. this smacks of desperation and people do not respect weakness. To operate from strength is to find solid leaders with solid values and give them solid support.
Thanks for your opinion noob, however, seeing as how you've only been a member since 5 days ago, I think your going to have difficulty gaining any traction with your remarks. People will probably question your motives...I know I do.
why not do both? why not rebuild and petition? the two are not mutually exclusive of one another.
We believe in the US Constitution here at FR. Do you?
I also hear that Michelle Obama was involved in some shady real estate investment scheme too.... I think it’s called Whitewater or something.
So Patriot Act is “ok” with you guys, but a gray area about citizenship for a world traveling baby that was most definitely born on U.S. soil is unconstitutional?
Yeahh...mkay, that’s going to help things with the conservative movement.
Very non sequitur question you propose. And what do you men "you" guys. Are you a liberal? And for the record, your boy Obama, voted to extend the Patriot Act. So I guess he's okay with it.
And if you know that Obama was "most definitely born on U.S soil" and is a NATURAL citizen, then you can show us the proof. Right?
Ping
He who says a thing cannot be done, should not interrupt he who is doing it.
You have real proof of this? Such as, oh I don't know...a long form birth certificate belonging to one Barack Obama?
Even if it were proved that he was born in Hawaii, it still wouldn”t make a difference.
Leo C. Donofrio’s suit states that Obama’s father was a subject of the U.K. when Obama was born.That fact is not in disputs. British law at the time stated that any children born of
a male British Subject gave them the status of being a citizen of the U.K.
Hence, it doesn’t matter where Barack was born. He had at the very LEAST dual citizenship.
Ineligible be POTUS.
Ping
Unable to walk and chew gum at the same time?
If you could change that faith into reality and obtain proof of this original BC could stand to make One Million Bucks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVoJZEdM0K4
Original birth certificate ——————————————Unavailable
Obama/Dunham marriage license -—————————Unavailable
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license ————————— Unavailable
Soetoro adoption records-————————————— Unavailable
Dept.of Education Hawaii Kindergarten Records-—— Unavailable
Punahou School records-——————————————Unavailable
Occidental College records —————————————Unavailable
Passport (Pakistan) -———————————————— Unavailable
Columbia College ——————————————————Unavailable
Columbia thesis ———————————————————Unavailable
(Topic: Nuclear Disarmament, written during Cold War ’83)
Harvard College records -——————————————Unavailable
Harvard Law Review articles ———————————— Unavailable
(Evidence that one may have been written, yet it is unsigned)
Baptism certificate ——————————————————Unavailable
Medical records -———————————————————Unavailable
Illinois State Senate records -————————————None
Illinois State Senate schedule ————————————Lost
Law practice client list ———————————————— Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles –—————— None on file
Indonesian Besuki School Application—————————Located
(Enrolled with name Barry Soetoro-faith “Islam”
Selective Service Registration- ——————————See below
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_did_n.html
Funny enough, the suppressed document that’s a real indicator (with the exception of the BC) is the Department of Education State of Hawaii school records. They are the 2nd record of contact with authorities that would have provided not only date & place of birth, but also a legitimate birth name and record of vaccination reflectin DOB.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm
“question my motives” all you want... have fun waiting for that next API press release. if Hillary Clinton didn’t deliver these goods on NObama (heaven knows McCain wasn’t going to) they’re not there to be delivered. wikipedia Occam’s Razor and do something productive, like help Saxby down in GA.
Shut up. If you think it doesn’t matter if a man elected to become President may be ineligible Constitutionally, then go read other threads.
Note new signup date.
Thanks, I got here!
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