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Detroit Three--Thanks for the Memories
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Posted on 11/17/2008 9:35:11 AM PST by nateriver

Four generations of my family worked in General Motors Plants. My great grandfather, grandfather, father, brothers and I all worked for Buick Motor Division in Flint, Michigan. After working my way through college at the Buick Engine Plant, I became an economic analyst and then a supervisor at another GM plant. My family was so loyal to General Motors that we considered a Ford a foreign car. This is why it makes it particularly painful for me to say that there should not be a bailout.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: auto; bailout; bho2008; detroit; michigan; uaw; unionmadejunk; unions
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1 posted on 11/17/2008 9:35:11 AM PST by nateriver
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To: nateriver
>>>>>>Let them file Chapter 11 and reorganize.

Ditto.

2 posted on 11/17/2008 9:38:16 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

I have not heard a single reason why a government bailout would be superior to a bankruptcy filing unless you consider keeping unrealistic benefits for a few union members at the expense of taxpayers a reason. Shareholders should not be rewarded for making a poor choice and letting poor Management stay entrenched.


3 posted on 11/17/2008 9:40:05 AM PST by freedomrings69
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To: nateriver

Bought my last GM car in 1979....

They build CRAP!!!!!


4 posted on 11/17/2008 9:41:09 AM PST by geo40xyz (BE PREPARED: Geo The Engineer says its HUSSEIN & the MSM fault for next 4 years:-))
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To: nateriver

Once the decision is made to restrict the $350 Billion (+another 350 NOT) to the Financial Industry, other industries will quit wasting their time whining about bailouts and get back to work! You’re in good company with other great Americans who have just stumbled a bit. On a clear day you’ll always see GM! and when they put the union coffin behind them, eventually they’ll be as competitive as the Japanese! (full disclosure—I’d never buy a Japanese car)


5 posted on 11/17/2008 9:41:47 AM PST by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: nateriver
I'd like to buy a new Studebaker, or a new AMC, or a new Nash, Willys-Overland, Auburn, Duesenberg, or Tucker (or Plymouth, or Oldsmobile - yes I know they were subsidiaries).

Wait, you mean that those companies aren't around anymore? I guess America can survive.

6 posted on 11/17/2008 9:43:30 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Ever notice that Obama supporters chant "O-Bahm-AH" while McCain/Palin supporters chant "U-S-A".)
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To: nateriver

Union Thugs spent $ 400,000,000 of stolen union member money getting Obama elected. They are simply demanding that they get what they paid for.


7 posted on 11/17/2008 9:43:43 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Reagan Man

“Let them file Chapter 11 and reorganize”

Agreed.


8 posted on 11/17/2008 9:45:52 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: nateriver

More like Tanks for the Memories.


9 posted on 11/17/2008 9:46:59 AM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: freedomrings69
Shareholders should not be rewarded for making a poor choice and letting poor Management stay entrenched.

Exactly! Management must make the hard choices necessary to survive on their own, and this means telling the UAW that they either back off on their demands or the industry withers and dies. I fail to see why MY tax dollars should be used to bailout any company, let alone one that has let is hourly wage costs soar to more than $73/hour. Are assembly line workers really worth $146,000 per year? Nope, it's time to bite the bullet and fix things that have allowed costs to get out of whack this far or to silently fold your tent and go home.

10 posted on 11/17/2008 9:47:23 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: geo40xyz

sorry but i gotta call you on that one...it is not 1979, it is 2009, and GM builds some of the best cars out there, very high quality products ( I would buy one if I could afford it ) but the problem is they are very high priced...


11 posted on 11/17/2008 9:49:27 AM PST by joe fonebone (The libtard votes in every election, regardless of the candidate.)
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To: nateriver

“The strength of the union and the weakness of management made it impossible to conduct business properly at any level. For instance, I had an employee who punched in his time card and then disappeared. The rules were such that I had to spend hours documenting that this man was not in his three foot by three foot work area. I needed witnesses, timed reports, calls over the intercom and a plant wide search all documented in detail. After this absurdity I decided to go my own route; I called the corner bar and paged him and he came to the phone. I gave him a 30 day unpaid disciplinary lay off because he was a “repeat offender”. When he returned he thanked me for the PAID vacation. I scoffed, until he explained: (1) He had tried to get the lay off because it was fishing season; (2) The UAW negotiated with GM Labor Relations Department to give him the time WITH PAY.”

Oh yeah - unions. They have such a valuable purpose...


12 posted on 11/17/2008 9:50:36 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: nateriver
I hate it because I love Corvettes and Chevrolet half ton trucks. Great vehicles, actually. But I have to agree with the article. The bailout isn't a bailout for GM, it's a bailout for union malfeasance.

Let GM file bankruptcy, nullify all union contracts. In fact, I think GM should close its doors in North America for a year or so. They make plenty of profit from their overseas operations. Re-open in North America after a while with a no-unions rule a la Wal Mart. And relocate all production to places like Kentucky, Tennessee, and Mississippi. We could use the jobs around here, and we'll actually work without complaining that the bathrooms at the plant don't have gold-plated toilet paper dispensers.
13 posted on 11/17/2008 9:51:19 AM PST by JamesP81 (A loyal son of the great commonwealth of Kentucky)
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To: Reagan Man
Agreed. Sit the union management down, tell them here's the deal-

Your retiree's with over 20 years service, will receive $X per month, and an adjusted medical plan. Anyone with less than 20 years, better pick up the pace.

Don't like that?

Better to receive a smaller percentage of something, than 100% of nothing! If the UAW doesn't get that, skip chapter 11, let's get right to chapter 7.
14 posted on 11/17/2008 9:52:14 AM PST by Issaquahking (Obama won the election, and America lost!)
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To: geo40xyz

I own a 2001 GMC Sierra 4WD extended cab pickup. Other than the tailgate cables, fixed for free, the truck has been flawless.


15 posted on 11/17/2008 9:52:23 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: nateriver

I would like to buy a new car once again in my lifetime. The prices are outrageous. I drive a Toyota pickup with 250,000 miles on it. My old Ford Thunderbird is sitting dead in the garage at 100,000 with the inside door handle broken off, the seatbelt nonfunctional, the lights non functional and an expensive overheating issue.

I thought that Ford started mass production with the idea that he would make an affordable automobile for the average family. Perhaps the big three need to go back to that idea.


16 posted on 11/17/2008 9:52:36 AM PST by marsh2
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To: geo40xyz
Bought my last GM car in 1979.... They build CRAP!!!!!

They built crap in 1979, but today's GM quality is light years ahead of those days. Both Ford and GM have been steadily improving for years, to the point where Ford is now rated equal in quality ratings with Toyota/Honda.

17 posted on 11/17/2008 9:52:36 AM PST by Azzurri
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To: nateriver

The good news is that the Ford Family will have to sell the Detroit Lions, so maybe finally they can win a game.


20 posted on 11/17/2008 9:56:08 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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