A BIRTH CERTIFICATE LAWSUIT - IN GOOD STANDING

Atlas Shrugs ^ | November 12, 2008 | Pamela Geller

[The Sons of Liberty]

Simple, it’s a conspiracy, and everyone except us is in on it: the courts, the Congress, President Bush, the Justice Department, the MSM, the Republican Party, and of course, the Democrat Party.

Makes you wonder if "Men in Black" or "The Bilderberg Group" are actually pulling the strings. if I were a conspiracy theorist, with 0bama, I would say Soros or overseas muslims (al queda).

[John Valentine]

There is nothing in the Constitution about vault copies.

Check out the legal principle called "best evidence".

You come up with the ORIGINAL evidence or you had better have a REAL good explanation why you can't. If you are Barry Soetoro, you will have NO excuse for not presenting best evidence of your birth.

And in common law, and I think in every jurisdiction in the United States, an individual cannot offer his own testimony as to the facts of his own birth. Why not. Because it's hearsay.

You have to come up with the goods. The document that Barry posted would NOT be accepted for a passport. They would want to see the REAL birth certificate. And so would any court.

[Plummz]

I agree. The long-form contains a fraudulent home-birth affidavit filed, likely, by Madelyn Payne Dunham.

[steveyp]

Just because everyone is after us doesn’t mean they aren’t.

[Faith]

Just because everyone is after us doesn’t mean they aren’t.

Thanks for the laugh. Seriously. :)

[CodeToad]

bttt

[wideminded]

The document that Barry posted would NOT be accepted for a passport.

Yes it would. The paper document that it purports to be a picture of would certainly be accepted for a passport application. That's all you get when you request a copy of your birth certificate. That is all I had to give the passport office to get a passport for my son.

[seoul62]

You mean a certified copy from your states’s vital records department? One cannot submit just a black and white photocopy, correct?/Just Asking - seoul62......

[little jeremiah]

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Vault copies?

The Constitution says clearly that a president has to be a natural born citizen. That doesn’t matter?

[wideminded]

Vault copies?

The Constitution says clearly that a president has to be a natural born citizen. That doesn’t matter?

Yes, it matters. But if Obama presented a certified copy of his birth certificate (the paper version of the document presented online) or perhaps even had someone from the Hawaii Department of Health testify that he was indeed born in Hawaii, then I don't see why the original vault copy of his birth certificate, which presumably is a unique state record document that is never brought forth for any individual, would have to be produced.

[wideminded]

You mean a certified copy from your states’s vital records department? One cannot submit just a black and white photocopy, correct?

Yes, I had to present a certified copy that was sent to me from the state where my son was born and it was accepted by the passport office.

[Karliner]

Took me forever to get my first CDL( California Drivers License) because I couldn't produce, and never have, the original copy of my Birth Certificate. Such is life adopted. I've paid companies to search and actually have no record of my birth hospital of which it lists on my aged "copy."

If it's this hard to produce documentation of my very existence in the mosh pit of bureaucratic paperwork I wonder how long, if ever a "vault" copy of Abu Hussein's( Syria's Assad's nickname for our prezident elect) will ever be produced. It took a shorter time being vetted for some government work a couple decades ago.

[little jeremiah]

I had have (can’t remember exactly the reason) a photocopy of my BC that said exact time to the minute, hospital, doctor, etc. Hassle to get it. Why shouldn’t Hussein have to show a copy of that? I don’t know if mine was a “vault” thingie but it wasn’t the generic COLB, like the one Hussein supposedly showed; or like the one his half sister Maya has and she was for sure not born in HI.

[seoul62]

Noted, thank you./Just Asking - seoul62......

[hoosiermama]

Thanks for the ping.

[John Valentine]

OK, but I’ve had others tell me they were turned down with similar documents; that what was required was a Birth Certificate as filed at birth.

And, I can tell you that the “COLB” that Barry presented looks NOTHING like the Hawaii Birth Certificates I have for my son and daughter born in Honolulu in the same approximate time period as our Barry.

[Polarik]

Let's get these letters out, people! :

THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO TO HELP THIS CASE GET BEFORE JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS IS TO WRITE TO HIM AND THE OTHER JUSTICES:

The Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas

United States Supreme Court

One First Street, N.E.,

Washington, D.C. 20543.

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Please include the docket # 08A407, and the URL to this blog

http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/ [Below is the original post. Thank you for your help.]

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES - CLERK'S OFFICE CONTINUES SABOTAGE OF NJ CITIZEN STAY APPLICATION FOR 08 ELECTION - YOUR HELP IS REQUESTED

Dear Citizens of the United States of America,

I need your help and the US needs your help.

My case, LEO C. DONOFRIO v. NINA MITCHELL WELLS, SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY - US Supreme Court Docket # 08A407 - continues to be subjected to misconduct by the US Supreme Court Clerk's office, particularly by Mr. Danny Bickell, the Stay Clerk.

For a full review of the Judicial treachery in this case, please review the entire UNORTHODOX PROCEDURAL HISTORY of the case.

It has come to my attention today that the US Supreme Court's Stay Clerk, Mr. Danny Bickell, has continued to list this case incorrectly thereby preventing it from ever crossing the desk of Justice Clarence Thomas.

The Docket of the case fails to mention that the case went directly from the Appellate Division in New Jersey to the New Jersey Supreme Court which is the nexus that allows the case to be properly before the US Supreme Court. The Clerk's office appears to be doing everything possible to see that this case never gets to the desk of Justice Clarence Thomas or any of the other Supreme Court Justices.

I have an order handed down from the New Jersey Supreme Court which makes reference to the Appellate Division case as well, but the US Supreme Court Clerk's office refuses to acknowledge the NJ Supreme Court's review and it is that review which allows my case to go before the US Supreme Court. The Appellate Division case avoided the Constitutional issue, but the NJ Supreme Court decision raised the Constitutional issue when it specifically said in its order of denial that it had relied on "movant's papers" while at the same time it made no mention of Judge Sabatino's Appellate Division order and opinion.

The NJ Supreme Court specifically relied upon "movant's papers" in their order denying emergency relief and "movants papers" focused on the "natural born citizen" issue.

Here is the decision of the Honorable Justice Virginia A. Long:

"This matter having come before the court on an application for emergent relief pursuant to Rule 2:9-8, and the undersigned having reviewed the movant's papers and the papers filed by the defendant in the Superior Court, Appellate Division, it is hereby Ordered that the application for emergent relief is denied."

The US Supreme Court Docket fails to mention the NJ Supreme Court decision and that is completely wrong and improper. This case continues to be subjected to Judicial/Clerical misconduct and it's time that US Citizens, be they Democrat, Republican or 3rd party affiliated, stand up and order that the Clerk's office of the highest Court in the land STOP interfering in a case that is rightly before the US Supreme Court.

This is unprecedented in that the Clerk's office at the SCOTUS appears to be injecting politics into the handling of paperwork properly before it. It will be a terrible blow to the separation of powers if Supreme Court review can be stopped by Clerks imposing their own political views on litigants who have properly followed legal procedure. Justice Clarence Thomas and the rest of the Supreme Court must receive direct mail letters (not e mail) bringing this case Docket # and the URL of my blog to their attention. You may write to Justice Thomas at the following address:

The Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas

United States Supreme Court

One First Street, N.E.,

Washington, D.C. 20543.

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Please include the docket # 08A407, and the URL to this blog

http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/

If you write to Chief Justice Roberts, please make sure the envelope is addressed to

THE HONORABLE JOHN G. ROBERTS, CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE UNITED STATES

Thank you,

Leo C. Donofrio

[Polarik]

But if Obama presented a certified copy of his birth certificate (the paper version of the document presented online) or perhaps even had someone from the Hawaii Department of Health testify that he was indeed born in Hawaii, then I don't see why the original vault copy of his birth certificate, which presumably is a unique state record document that is never brought forth for any individual, would have to be produced.

Obama did not, and will not, produce his real birth certificate, because it will eliminate him from ever taking the oath of office. -- that's been the whole point all along.

It is THE ISSUE of the Century.

[browneyedGAgirl]

Simple, it’s a conspiracy, and everyone except us is in on it: the courts, the Congress, President Bush, the Justice Department, the MSM, the Republican Party, and of course, the Democrat Party.

Best post EVER on this subject. I don't know what's worse... the fact that this idiocy became an issue in the first place or the fact that folks here REFUSE to LET IT DIE.

[wideminded]

Obama ... will not, produce his real birth certificate, because it will eliminate him from ever taking the oath of office.

1. Why are you so sure about that?
2. Why, if he can prove he was born in Hawaii, would he need to have the authorities bring forth the original vault copy of his birth certificate?