Posted on 11/10/2008 6:30:13 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
Reader Jason wrote to Electoral college requesting Obama's birth certificate records be released. Jason wrote, "I emailed the Electoral College and submitted all the information from the We The People petition and ad- so they can be aware of their duty before electing this man into what will be our utmost undoing."
They answered and punked out.
The Office of the Federal Register at the National Archives and Records Administration administers the Electoral College process, which takes place after the November general election. The Office of the Federal Register does not have the authority to handle issues related to the general election, such as candidate qualifications. People interested in this issue may wish to contact their state election officials or their Congressional Representatives.
Because the process of qualifying for the election and having a candidate's name put on the ballot varies from state to state, you should contact your state's top election officer for more information. In most states, the Secretary of State is the official responsible for oversight of state elections, including the presidential election. Visit the National Secretaries of State web site to locate contact information and web addresses for the Secretary of State from each state and the District of Columbia.
Under federal law an objection to a state's electoral votes may be made to the President of the Senate during Congress's counting of electoral votes in January. The objection must be made in writing and signed by at least one Senator and one member of the House of Representatives. Both the Senate and the House of Representatives debate the objection separately. Debate is limited to two hours. After the debate, both the Senate and the House of Representatives rejoin and both must agree to reject the votes.
Legal Affairs and Policy Staff Office of the Federal Register
The President of the Senate is Robert Byrd - good luck with that!
UPDATE: Slim guy advises: The people to contact are your party representatives at the state level. The leadership of your state Senate and House of your party and the Office of the Governor and Sec of State and possibly the AG. Methods of appointment of electors vary from state to state and also just how much control the government has over them once they are appointed. A little homework needed on your part to determine the best course of action in your case.
UPDATE: My bad... The current President pro tempore of the Senate is Robert Byrd --
According to wikipedia, Roark is right - the U.S. Constitution states the Vice President of the United States serves as President of the Senate, and is the highest-ranking official of the Senate even though he only votes in the case of a tie. CHENEY! How very Rovian .... talk about going out with a bang :)
I don’t think so. The first paragraph:
>>>Reader Jason wrote to Electoral college requesting Obama’s birth certificate records be released. Jason wrote, “I emailed the Electoral College and submitted all the information from the We The People petition and ad- so they can be aware of their duty before electing this man into what will be our utmost undoing.”<<<<
I don’t think Pam checks any of her sources and just posts what ever spam mail she finds in the morning.
You are correct.
So this means that all of the states dropped the ball by not requiring Obama to provide proof of eligibility based on the supposed word of the Democrat Party that he was qualified??
unbelievable.
As per the state ELECs (I contacted 7, not all of them), the parties are responsible for vetting the candidates. The FEC will only do further checking if federal monies are requested.
Well, that would explain backing out of federal campaign funds. I am ill from the fraud etc that tainted this election. God help us.
I think I would embrace martial law under Bush. The later is frightening.
Wouldn’t an elector have status to sue to see the original birth certificate?
There is some faint hope....
Winner of county office apparently too young to run
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/11/07/worth_elect_young.html
Maui awaiting residency ruling
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081110/NEWS05/811100318/1009/LOCALNEWSFRONT
Read the last line of the reply.
Looks like somebody with the Obama campaign was way out in front on this.
In those instances there are no constitutional methods in place to deal with them. In this case the Constitution specifies a joint session to receive the certified Electoral votes from the states. A court cannot throw out a candidate since he has not been elected just his electors have been.
You are not thinking about this within the logic of our constitution. We did not just elect Zero we elected ELECTORS. They are qualified to vote. They are not qualified to vote for an ineligible candidate.
Remember in 2000 when the Democrat grandstanders made their speeches at that meeting trying to keep Bush from being acknowledged as President? They wanted to disqualify Bush’s Florida electors. That is where this will come up.
Now there may be some grounds for suing the State certifiers if they certify Zero when he is ineligible.
And there may be some case to be made after he takes office perhaps the Court could rule that Congress allowed an ineligible person to take office.
It is clear from all the floundering around on this that there is no clear path ahead here.
Pretty much, yeah.
Don't assume too much.
You do not need to explain the electoral college to me. I understand it perfectly well. The Electoral College cannot violate the constitution or the citizens’ constitutional rights anymore than a sitting President or congressman or judge or your next door neighbor can.
States must certify their electoral votes prior to submitting them the the President of the Senate. Hence, it appears to me that a state can require proof of eligibility in order to certify that it has voted for a qualified candidate.
NO one has the answer to this since it has never even remotely been an issue.
He stepped down from his chairmanship of the Appropriations Committee...but he is finishing out his term, no? Also I would think he would stay on at the largely ceremonial post of PPT of the Senate.
Folks we have to keep the pressure up and dont give up. All we want is for Obama to show he has the qualifications to be POTUS. That’s It, if he produces the documents, we stand down. Plain & Simple... But if he doesn’t, We must not accept this and we will fight tooth and nail that our Constitution is worth the paper it’s written on. Grab your pitch forks $ torches and lets “Gitter Done”
Why are you trying to distort my argument? Peasants have nothing to do with this and do not exist in this nation. Perhaps you should have said “....thinks the Know Nothings have standing....” at least that would have a small degree of accuracy.
My logic is based upon the Constitution you seem to be throwing everything against the wall hoping something will stick. At least this “newby” is above that approach.
The rub is that why would any state that WANTS to vote for Obama, even venture to verify his eligibility? See MD, NY, CA, IL asking for proof of natural born status?
This is weird...like I said, I’m pretty up on Constitutional issues/knowledge...but this is something that I have never seen addressed or opined about.
That is not what I am saying. STate laws determine who is put on their ballots.
Could Zero have been challenged at the state level prior to the primaries or general election before the ballots were set up? Probably.
This is entirely different since he was alread ON the ballots.
With bets like that you should stay away from Vegas.
BTW where is my argument invalid? Or do you confine your remarks to snide wise cracks?
You don’t grasp that no one is allowed to violate the constitution. You are arguing we will only have standing if the Electoral College electors go and do what they will most certainly do - vote for Obama.
I’m telling you that regardless of what they do, YOU CANNOT BE PRESIDENT IN THIS COUNTRY WITHOUT MEETING THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS. PERIOD.
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