Posted on 11/10/2008 2:53:28 PM PST by clyde_m
As if Hillary hasn’t been bitch slapped enough by the party she put back into power (remember the dems had the WH for just 4 years of the previous 24), now health-care has been denied to her. She asked to be chair of a subcommittee on the topic. “No.” Time for the PUMAs to push an independent party status.
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Let’s ban that “P” word here!
Her Medusa like screams probably have turned half of her staff into stone by now.
I agree. When the PUMAs went into the voting booth, there was no way 99% of them were going to vote for McCain. They would rather have a real liberal not liberal-lite.
Don’t complain about the PUMAs. The problem was that the PUMA phenomenon was confined to the most politically active segment of the Democrat party’s rank-and-file. There weren’t enough of them because they didn’t bring the somnabulent Hillary supporters along with them to the polls to vote McCain/Palin.
We FReepers and our allies off the board here weren’t enough of an influence on the GOP to get a good candidate nominated.
The PUMAs are to the center-left what we are to the right. There weren’t enough of us combined to swing the election in the face of the dishonest media environment once the topic shifted to vague economic distress instead of energy policy.
If we regain power, I want an investigation of Soros, Buffet and any hedge-fund manage who gave the max to Obama’s campaign. I think the crisis would have happened eventually, but I think under natural market conditions the subprime collapse would have happened in half a year to a year’s time rather than as an October Surprise.
PUMA my ass.
Their entire group could have met in a phone booth.
We need to be thankful for whatever they were able to do to help. It was conservatives who didn't vote for McCain, as Bush in 2004 won more votes than Obama this time, and Bush did not get ANY Democratic votes that year of consequence. This year, McCain was to have received between 11 - 20% of his votes from Democrats.
Bingo! I never believed there were any of these voters to speak of. I could’t believe that people on this site were talking about millions of them. The whole PUMA thing was mostly a hoax, IMHO.
Only in America.
Hillary Clinton almost single-handedly gave the Republicans their first majority in Congress in 40 years with her behind the scenes, un-elected role trying to give the country socialized medicine.
This is her “resume” to be put in charge of “health care”.
This is her “signature issue”, she was an unmitigated disaster.
It would be like putting Paris Hilton in charge of Abstinence Education.
McCain lost because the iffy conservatives didn't show up. People here are political wonks, and know Obama's background. The average voter didn't start paying attention until the general election, and by then Obama was running as a centrist.
It's not Obama's fault that the Republicans didn't call him out. He shoveled ammunition at them. When Russia invaded Georgia, and he called for the UN to issue a resolution condemning the invasion, why didn't we have ads pointing out Obama doesn't know that Russia is on the Security Council and could veto any resolution?
The Republican campaign this year reminded me of a political ad we ran back during the 1980 elections. A Tip O'Neil lookalike was driving a car, while a guy sat next to him saying, "Senator, we're running out of gas." The Tip lookalike jovially waved his arm and kept driving over the protestations of the passenger. Finally, the car comes to a halt. Tip says, "Hey! We're out of gas!" That was the Republicans. Just cruise along like it's a walk in the park, and pay no attention to the tidal wave coming at you.
It wasn't the fault of the PUMAs.
BTW, though, Hillary is finding out just how hard a fall she's going to take. Schumer took a back seat to her because she was the presumptive nominee ever since 2000. Now, she's a junior senator with no higher office on the horizon and scarily enough, is too conservative for the current Democratic party.
Clintons and DLC folks are OUT.
Soros, MoveON, Huffpost, DU, Keith Olbermann are IN, that’s the new democrat party, we need to wake up any democrats left with any patriotism and/or brains.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1
Could’nt happen to a nicer person.
“Time for the PUMAs to push an independent party status.”
Hasn’t it been reported that there was no PUMA movement — that it was a sham? I think it was a Trojan Horse sent to the GOP as a gift.
“Clintons and DLC folks are OUT.”
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Rahm Emanuel was in Pres. Clinton’s Whitehouse as a close advisor and was/is DLC. Obama may realize that the first aisle he must reach across is within the Dem party.
We could usually count on themn to infight enough to be ineefective- last two years for instance. If Obama unites the Dems and moves to the center, it is going to be a long, hard fight fior the GOP.
I see nothing in Obama’s past that indicates he will move to the center, I expect him to overreach, at least at first, we’ll see if he then tries to moderate enough to get re-elected
It was the collapse of Lehman that was the last straw.
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