Posted on 10/22/2008 2:11:53 PM PDT by pissant
Barack Obama claims particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation in the Berg case and has filed a request for dismissal and a protective order. Bergs filing asks for copies of his birth certificate, citizenship records, passport and travel records, and other documentation proving citizenship in the U.S. as well as other countries.
First, lets establish that I am no lawyer so dont depend on my interpretation of the Berg vs. Obama lawsuit as being accurate. I am depending on the interpretations of others who know much more than I, and assuming they have it right. With that out of the way, lets proceed.
Philip Berg (a Democrat and former deputy attorney general of the state of Pennsylvania) filed his initial lawsuit against Barack Obama August 21, 2008 in Philadelphia Federal Court, claiming Obama is constitutionally ineligible to be President based on citizenship. The first counter filing was from Obama only, but the DNC has since joined in.
Barack Obama and the DNC failed to respond to Bergs filing of Sep. 15 within the required 30 days, which means they ADMITTED to all the charges in the filing by default. When they did not respond in any manner to any of the requests for information or documention the judge extended their deadline, and they then filed a motion for DISMISSAL and for a PROTECTIVE ORDER.
Their reasoning for requesting a protective order is that revealing the information (birth certificate, passports, citizenship in other countries) would cause a defined and serious injury to Obama and/or the DNC. They say revealing these documents raises a legitimate privacy concern and the above mentioned risk that particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation. (emphasis added) Then they claim Berg has no standing to ask for it.
* Is it just me, or does this sound like an admission of guilt? If his birth certificate and citizenship records, including passports and travel documentation, are going to cause particularly serious embarrassment, can we assume they do not prove he is a natural born citizen as required by the Constitution for eligibility for the presidency? How else could they be embarrassing? * Obama has already posted a copy of his birth certificate online (deemed by some experts to be a poor forgery), so wouldnt this have nullified any expectation for privacy?
From the list of 83 charges filed and not rebutted, here are some they admitted to (remember, they technically admitted them because they didnt refute them):
1. Barack Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen 2. Barack Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya 3. Barack Obama traveled to Pakistan with friends in 1981 on an Indonesian passport 4. Barack Obama has asked others to have his birth certificate in Hawaii altered 5. The DNC has knowledge of this and is complicit in hiding it
WHERE IS THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA? With speculation that he was born in Kenya, is still a citizen of Indonesia, traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport, and never re-claimed his American citizenship, does anyone doubt if this were the Republican candidate they would be spending at least as much time investigating it as they did Joe the Plumbers background? It would be all over the news 24 hours a day! But Obama? They dont investigate, they dont report. Where is their journalistic integrity?
Berg now has filed:
A) A motion requesting an immediate order deeming his request for admissions served upon Barack Obama and the DNC on September 15 admitted by default, and
B) A motion requesting an expedited ruling and/or hearing on Bergs motion deeming the request for admissions served upon Obama and the DNC admitted.
If Judge Surrick grants these motions, Barack Obama is, at least temporarily, ineligible to run for the office of President of the United States OR to be a citizen of the United States.
There are some rumblings from the courthouse that a ruling, one way or the other, may be forthcoming by the end of this week.
Bergs website You can read the full list of Requests for Admissions Obama and the DNC failed/refused to respond to, thus admitted to, at this site. In fact, you can read the history of the whole case here, including .pdf documents of all the filings.
TexasDarlin A Democrat-for-Clinton website following and investigating this case, this post interprets the information on Bergs website to help understand what it means.
Americas Right Written by a law student who works in the courthouse where the case is filed; he breaks news fast and accurately.
I heard that it was AIG that paid for the Trip....LOL
If he was born in Africa, would that make him an American African?
Would this make 0bama's children really his grandchildren???
(Heck, if it's a good enough attack on Saracuda,...)
Perhaps his full given name is really Muhammad Osama Hussein Obama ;)
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However, that might solve his problem (being born in Kenya to a married couple, the father being a Kenyan citizen, the mother being American, but not a resident of the US for long enough to confer natural born status on the child).
If they were not married, he would have American citizenship. He would be illegitimate, but still be an American. I do not know if that would suffice as ‘natural born’, however.
So maybe he does not want either case known, because either one might be fatal to his presidential aspirations.
And to think that you were paying alimony when it wasn’t legit! lol
“Ive been married twice, and never had to show a birth certificate.”
Well then, you did not do it right. You must not really be married.
That’s right illegitimacy no longer matters in our society, but it did years ago when Barry first fabricated the fictional account of his life and it would definitely mattered to a young man he felt his father had abandoned him.
So while NO the illegitmacy wouldn’t be the embarassing factor at this time, having to admit he lied all that time could prove pretty embarassing.
Barry’s lies about his birth could lead people to question what other “fictions” make up his life story?
The cover-up is always worse that the crime.
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Obama don’t want his birth certificate released because it is embarrassing.
I recall some embarrassing divorce records he wanted made public of his opponent.
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573
Which of the documents in there, specifically, mention the "serious embarrassment" wording? I'm not seeing it. Does that wording come from Berg or the Obama camp?
Yes, please reference the doc. I’m not seeing it either.
At Jeremiah Wrong's church???
If the papers by Obama were filed today then it may simply be that they have not been posted online yet.
You better address that question to the Clintons???
The requirements for eligibility to become POTUS are “Constitutional” requirements, writ by “We the People”. “We” are the competent authority. Ergo, any citizen of these United States has standing in said legal challenge. There is no question of it. Only an activist judge would find in favor of dismissal on these grounds. I see this as just another blatant stall tactic. The real question ... is Obama stalling because he has something to hide, or because he wants us to continue hunting a red herring? I suspect the former.
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