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It took until 1996 for me to discover that this wasn't _my_ fault. I was in my 50s. My brother is a physician and he was the one who made the dx.

It was awful. It has become even worse, in some ways, since my father, the loving parent, passed away. I have had to accept that she is what she is, won't change and nothing will change the past.

On the positive side, I have always wondered why I am so reactionary against manipulation and now I know.

There are forums online for children of narcissists and those help a lot. The stories are just the same story, over and over. It is not an uncommon disorder.

I think it would be fruitful to investigate in just what form zerO's risk-taking manifests. Given the rumors, I suspect sex addiction.

I just skimmed the Ericksonian Hypnosis pdf you posted and sent it on to my email list. It is a gem, so thank you.I wonder if zerO, on some level, is risking being found out for this manipulation. Not everyone is susceptible, obviously. I have often thought that the saturation of advertising has decreased American susceptibility to subliminal coercion. I wonder if it is only effective in combination with media reinforcement. There is an element of peer reinforcement, as well, IMO. There is a contagion effect. This may be part of the reason why the authenticity of Palin and JTP is so threatening to the left. Some of those who are easily swayed by the psychological techniques can perhaps be deprogrammed in the presence of authenticity and would transfer their allegience from zerO to the real person.

I have posted before that I was friends in the past with a Pritzker heir (not Penny). Interestingly, she is a devotee of NLP and spent some time in the 80s explaining it, when she was in the initial enthusiasm phase. Also interestingly, she is a huge donor to Progressives. She is able to hide her donations, so I haven't been able to discover if she gave to zerO this time around, but she has many important Progressive connections.

As my screen name says, I spent my time on the left and I have posted my thoughts/experiences with them before. This sort of attempt at unethical influence in the name of the ends justifying the means is ubiquitous with them. I have no reason at all to doubt what they are attempting.