That reminds me of a novel I wrote.
Posted on 10/15/2008 6:21:56 AM PDT by connell
Jack Black, you’re dead-on right. Trouble is, we’re all too busy working supporting those who don’t to assemble (1st Amendment).
Like 1860, just waiting for a spark to touch the gunpowder.
Except this could be even worse, in the absence of polite geographical lines of demarcation. Every state would be a “bleeding Kansas” or perhaps a Missouri, with bands of partisans committing atrocities on all sides.
Anybody who thinks a new civil war is to be desired is insane.
But anybody who thinks we will submit quietly to creeping tyranny is also insane.
Good point.
That reminds me of a novel I wrote.
"The North and South could have survived without one another. If the South had won and gone their separate way, it would have simply been another case of a region breaking off from an established nation, something that has happened many times in history.
"But liberals cannot survive without conservatives. If we were to somehow ideologically segregate the nation, and then split it into two countries, the leftist nation would degenerate into savagery literally within hours. There would be hordes of people clamoring to get across the border into the rightist side in no time.
"It isn’t that all liberals are dependent people. Some are quite wealthy. But those wealthy liberals use the conservative middle class as a buffer against the large number of liberals who are indeed dependent, prone to violence, and culturally degraded. If we were to split into separate leftist and righting nations, the upscale white leftists such as Kos, Streisand, and all the others would find themselves outvoted immediately by the welfare crazed, affirmative action demanding masses wanting “housing”, “health care”, racial preferences, and so forth. They need a conservative presence in society as a buffer to allow them to indulge their liberal fantasies against the reality of what socialism and diversity really mean."
Keep in mind that the death toll AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE
POPULATION would mean around SIX MILLION DEAD in our time.
We were quite lucky last time as it was mainly an internal
affair, today there are too many outside players wanting to
influence the out come.
That’s a plausible scenario.
One more reason to BLOAT like hell.
Thats already going on. Liberals fleeing Massachusetts, their own liberal paradise that they built, for New Hampshire. Liberals from New York fleeing south for Florida, North Carolina, etc.
let’s split the country up. i am ready. i hate the demon rats and their media. i hate most all politicians.
let’s do it and get it over with. they can have the two coasts and a fly over path of ten miles.
washington nobody wants - can sink into the sea.
> laws regarding secession
I think COMMON LAW was established by Abraham Lincoln.
Good point.
I don’t want a Civil War, even if I think it is no longer avoidable.
The problem, in the most simplified of terms, is that now two countries exist in what is the United States. On believes in a government that gives you everything you want and regulates every detail of it’s citizens lives, right down to what they think. The other truly believes in limited government, property rights, and individual rights and responsibilities. One side views the US as evil, permanantly stained by the supposed sins of racism, genocide, and imperialism. The other side realizes that on balance America has been a force for tremendous good in the world.
How can such divergent worldviews continue to coexist under the same government? Shall we be doomed to continue this existence, where each side tries to grab power and wield it against the other may be the worst possible government. If we do not find a way to amicably divorce from each other or this situation, there will be blood.
One does not have to like the fact there is a log under the water in front of the boat. However, one will turn or the log will destroy the boat.
Strongly agree on both points which is why I am moving more and more towards favoring more muscular use of the residual rights of the states, up to and including secesion as our best hope of settlement w/o violence, of our differences. As the old saying goes: good fences make good neighbors. We need a few more fences in the USA.
BLOAT
Exactly what it is. Never doubt that.
It will be hot soon..
The first step is moving away from the most likely conflict zones, and moving into what will hopefully be a safe and stable area.
To the THINKING people aware of the game McCain won hands down. To those told what to think led by leashes Obama was the winner as he didn’t cut an orphan’s throat to make a point.
Seriously, McCain made up big time by taking his notorious notes during the previous debates while Obama had too much faith in his supposedly eidetic memory. McCain’s mastery of the forum (while easing in Obama’s faults) definitely garnered him the advantage here. While Barrack was his usual cool bobble-head self he was definitely caught off balance having to defend his actions and associations more often than not.
It seems to come down to who’s responsible for this financial crunch. I see Carter to Clinton to Bush trying to stop what’s happening five years back. The Demons are (of course) trying to put it off on the Pubs. Obama was right in there working to get the undeserved mortgages from lenders who would never have done so without the threat of being sued for racial discrimination.
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