Obama's Birth Certificate (View from a natural born Hawaiian - includes copy of mine)

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[richnwise]

Obama would have to be extremely lacking cognitive aptitude to try and run for president without being a natural born citizen......ince Obama and I share one thing in common, and let me stress the key operative word of that first part - "one", I thought that I would share my birth certificate (front and back, with signature) with the world, minus the personal stuff. Since we were both born in Hawaii, and our copies of our official birth certificate would be on record at the same place, I would think that his would look at least a little like mine, especially since I actually went to the Health Department and paid the $10.00 to get mine while standing in line.

[danamco]

What is it going to take to get the media to investigate this? It has been going on for months and there is NO investigation or coverage.

The Drive-By media will not touch this issue with a 10'-pole, and they know it, because they will fall flat on their faces and so will the large majority of the democRATic (DNC) party because none of them have had the guts of first vetting this candidate, risking us all to be forced to accept the FIRST ARAB-American President, hello!!!

[danamco]

As for his mother's citizenship qualifying him as a natural born citizen regardless of birthplace, the suit claims that laws at the time of his birth required the mother to have been a US citizen for a certain number of years after age 14, and claims that, due to her age at the time of his birth, she could not have met that requirement. Therefore, he must have been born on US soil to qualify as a natural born US citizen.

Now even more complications are here at play, if he, at the age of 20, traveled to Pakistan (which was prohibited by a U.S. citizen?) on his INDONESIAN Passport!!!

How would that wrench thrown into the mix be explained???

[danamco]

So any bona fides attesting to his citizenship that were presented when he ran for US Senator should still be on record.......IF any were presented. (which I doubt)

With all due respect, we are talking about Chicago, hmmm!!!

[Dilbert San Diego]

Well there’s more to this than just where he was born. I wasn’t aware of allegations that he is, or was, a dual citizen, of both Indonesia and the U.S. That makes this much different than if he were actually born in America.

Well, this lawsuit may go somewhere. We’ll see. I would love to see the evidence, such as his Indonesian passport or citizenship papers there. This could be interesting.

[danamco]

How did she get him in the coutnry?

GOOD QUESTION!!!

[tutstar]

Google has even cleaned the cache of the site. It’s a blank page.

[Osage Orange]

Apparently the person was very intimidated by whatever was said..........

[danamco]

This could be interesting.

You can glean a lot of information here:

http://www.americasright.com/

[tutstar]

So far the Odinga playbook is running on schedule.

[danamco]

Here is the latest directly from the "horse's" mouth, none other than Mr. Phillip J. Berg, Esq. enjoy your weekend, and we will see what Jerome Corsi has to say Monday evening on H&C, WOW very very interesting, hmmmm!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

[cynwoody]

Our blogger has posted a certificate dated 7 January 1994. It is irrelevant, because the state no longer responds to a birth certificate request with a copy of the original certificate. They now merely produce a laser printed form that attests to the basic facts on file. BTW, that Dr Onaka has been there a while!

The blogger needs to request a fresh copy of his certificate from the State of Hawaii. Then we can compare what they give him to what Bambi has produced via his website, Kos, and FactCheck.org. It will be minimally interesting to discover no significant differences!

This whole thing is a waste of time.

[billhilly]

OOPS!

[kabar]

The framers made it clear that you CANNOT have OR have had dual citizenship in order to qualify.

Where in the Constitution does it say that?

Dual Nationality

[DCBurgess58]

Do you have a primary source to support that assertion?

Ummm, well let's see... I'm married to a British woman and we have 2 children born out of the country. I think I have the rules down pretty pat by now. I am over 18 and a natural born American and legally married, therefore my children have "Jus sanguinis (right of blood)" citizenship in both the United States and the United Kingdom. Any more questions shmarty pants?

[DCBurgess58]

How did she get him in the coutnry? You just can't bring children into the US without documentation. Normally, the child would be put on the mother's passport after registering the birth at the US Consulate.

I have no idea how she brought him into the country, if he was in fact born in Kenya, as has been asserted. Perhaps immigration authorities were lax with infants in 1961. I agree, that it would certainly not be possible today.

[danamco]

That link is for you and me, but NOT for a candidate for Presidency of the United States of America!!!

[danamco]

I agree, that it would certainly not be possible today.

Everything changed after 9/11, just look how lax they were with the 19 hijackers before that!!!

[DCBurgess58]

Everything changed after 9/11, just look how lax they were with the 19 hijackers before that!!!

Actually my kids were born in '95 and '97, they both had American passports AND they were on my wife's United Kingdom passport from the time they were infants. If the immigration service was more lax at one time about infants, it would have been prior to '95, not after 9/11.

[kabar]

You still haven't answered the question about the age change assertion, i.e., the rules in effect at the time Obama was born. Citing anecdotal information doesn't work.

FYI: I am a retired Foreign Service Officer married to an immigrant and who had a child born overseas while stationed in Jakarta 33 years ago. I understand the rules on citizenship quite well, personally and professionally.

[DCBurgess58]

Okay, I went and read US Code: Title 8, Chapter 12, subchapter III, Part I, Sub-subsection 1401, (g), Effective Dec 24, 1952, at the Cornell Law Library website and unless someone has tampered with the document (a destinct possibility in these days of political and internet fraud, I would be interested in seeing copies of the US code from other sources as well), I agree with you, the lawsuit is without merit.

The language is clear. Even if he were born in Kenya, Barak Obama's mother resided in the United States for at least five years of her life at least two of which were after the age of fourteen, which means she passed on Jus sanguinis "right of blood" citizenship. Any other interpretation of the words would be an incorrect reading

US Code: Title 8, Chapter 12, subchapter III, Part I, Sub-subsection 1401, (g)

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date

Source documents:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/usc_sec_08_00000601----000-.html

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html