Posted on 10/08/2008 7:21:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
It’s Fun Seeing Evolution Falsified
Oct 8, 2008 — “Mysterious Snippets Of DNA Withstand Eons Of Evolution” is the strange title of an article on Science Daily. Gill Bejerano and Cory McLean from Stanford are wondering why large non-coding sections of DNA are very similar, or “ultraconserved,” from mice to man. Evolutionary theory would expect that non-functional genetic material would mutate more rapidly than genes. Yet for unknown reasons, the ultraconserved segments stay the same throughout the mammal order. Experiments have shown that mice with these sections deleted do just fine. Why would natural selection purify these regions if they are not essential for survival?...
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Sorry, none of this validates your particular religious beliefs.
If the entire theory of evolution were to be falsified tomorrow, creationists would not be one step closer to documenting that their beliefs are accurate. For that you need evidence.
A transcriptase is an enzyme that acts to copy strings of DNA into correponding strings of RNA. A reverse transcriptase is an enzyme that copies strings of RNA into corresponding strings of DNA.
There are known examples, if I recall correctly, functioning in immune system response in some organisms.
What is entirely unclear is whether reverse transcriptases ever implement Lamarkian evolution at a molecular level. To do so, the reverse transcriptase would have to transcribe information from RNA into the genome of germ cells or precursor cells to germ cells. This has never been observed.
Still, the existence of such enzymes falsify dogma that the DNA -> RNA -> proteins -> phenotype sequence is unidirectional.
You know, my ecology prof way back when told me that he had done some research and came across some evidence (I can't remember the particulars unfortunately) that showed some kind of Lamarckian effect, where the environment was having an impact on the genome. Of course, he was criticized by some of his peers for daring to suggest it. He was pretty miffed the idea didn't at least get a fair hearing.
Thanks for the info. I knew about transcriptase but I didn't remember ever hearing of it working in reverse. Would make sense though!
“It” (transcriptase) doesn’t work in reverse. There are other enzymes that copy the information the other direction (RNA to DNA), called for obvious reasons ‘reverse transcriptases’.
The Christian God and our savior Jesus Christ, who created this Earth and populated it through the science of evolution. Damn I am glad to be a common sense Catholic and not a wing nut.
==The Christian God and our savior Jesus Christ, who created this Earth and populated it through the science of evolution.
The only wing nut on this thread is the person who claims that God is a lowly, mistake-prone scientist.
PS And you still haven’t identified which theory of evolution God used to populate the earth. Or do you just ignore the particulars and blindly believe God used evolution even though the Bible says the exact opposite?
LOL you are funny.
Your blind faith in evolution is duly noted.
I also have a blind faith in Jesus... Him and God are darn good at using evolution to create stuff.
The entire reason it is news is its novelty. The notion that genomic regions of high evolutionary conservation will have high functionality has been confirmed so often, that when a stubborn case comes up it makes the news.
The Actual article, not a silly blog where they don't know the difference between translation and transcription.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081001181306.htm
“Evolution is a lot of fun,” said Bejerano, who plans to continue the investigation into what the ultraconserved segments might be doing. “You answer one question, and five others pop up. But one of the most rewarding things to me is the fact that we're developing a growing appreciation for how much these regions (of high evolutionary conservation)actually matter.”
Seems the guy working on the subject is still convinced that these regions are highly important. When he figures it out it will just be one of a thousand other cases where highly evolutionary conserved regions are found to be functional.
Your blind faith is in evolution. The Bible clearly states that God created time, space, matter, and all basic life forms in six consecutive earth days. If you don't believe this plain reading of scripture, then your faith in evolution is stronger than your faith in the Bible.
Nevermind that the majority of Christian believers like you me and the Pope have no problem at all with the Science of Evolution.
- “We must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only a variety of wishful speculations.” -- Franklin Harold, Emeritus Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Colorado State University, in an Oxford University Press text.
- “Darwinian evolution – whatever its other virtues – does not provide a fruitful heuristic in experimental biology. This becomes especially clear when we compare it with a heuristic framework such as the atomic model, which opens up structural chemistry and leads to advances in the synthesis of a multitude of new molecules of practical benefit. None of this demonstrates that Darwinism is false. It does, however, mean that the claim that it is the cornerstone of modern experimental biology will be met with quiet skepticism from a growing number of scientists in fields where theories actually do serve as cornerstones for tangible breakthroughs.” --U.S. National Academy of Sciences member Philip Skell
- "[The] Darwinian claim to explain all of evolution is a popular half-truth whose lack of explicative power is compensated for only by the religious ferocity of its rhetoric." --National Academy of Sciences member Lynn Margulis
- “Mutations have a very limited ‘constructive capacity’ … No matter how numerous they may be, mutations do not produce any kind of evolution.” --Past president of the French Academy of Sciences Pierre-Paul Grasse
- “The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major transitions in organic design, indeed our inability, even in our imagination, to construct functional intermediates in many cases, has been a persistent and nagging problem for gradualistic accounts of evolution.” --Late American paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould
- “Phylogenetic incongruities can be seen everywhere in the universal tree, from its root to the major branchings within and among the various taxa to the makeup of the primary groupings themselves.” --The father of molecular systematics, Carl Woese
- “Most of the animal phyla that are represented in the fossil record first appear, 'fully formed,' in the Cambrian … The fossil record is therefore of no help with respect to the origin and early diversification of the various animal phyla." --Invertebrate Zoology Textbook
- “It remains a mystery how the undirected process of mutation, combined with natural selection, has resulted in the creation of thousands of new proteins with extraordinarily diverse and well optimized functions. This problem is particularly acute for tightly integrated molecular systems that consist of many interacting parts…”
--Two leading biologists in Annual Review of Genomics and Human Genetics
- “New species usually appear in the fossil record suddenly, not connected with their ancestors by a series of intermediates.”
For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.—Psalm 90:4
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.—2 Peter 3:8
==Nevermind that the majority of Christian believers like you me and the Pope have no problem at all with the Science of Evolution.
You keep bringing up the Pope and act like you are some sort of authority on the Catholic Church...and yet I can’t recall you ever declaring yourself to be a practicing Catholic. Let me ask you, are you Catholic or Protestant, Allmendream?
I respect and admire the Catholic Church for many things. Their stance on Science being one of them.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19956961/
The pontiff, speaking as he was concluding his holiday in northern Italy, also said that while there is much scientific proof to support evolution, the theory could not exclude a role by God.
“They are presented as alternatives that exclude each other,” the pope said. “This clash is an absurdity because on one hand there is much scientific proof in favor of evolution, which appears as a reality that we must see and which enriches our understanding of life and being as such.”
You never answered my question. Are you Catholic or Protestant?
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