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How serious is this "financial crisis"? (vanity)

Posted on 09/24/2008 5:41:41 PM PDT by Miztiki

I won't pretend to understand what is going on right now. My question is, how will all of this affect me and the average American? I've heard words like "depression" and "complete meltdown" mentioned and it scares me.


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I'd appreciate it if someone in the know would tell me what the bottom line is here for me and everyone else. I'm in Michigan where things are already bad. How much worse is it going to get? Is it inevitable?

Thank you.

1 posted on 09/24/2008 5:41:42 PM PDT by Miztiki
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To: Miztiki

I echo your question here in Maine.


2 posted on 09/24/2008 5:43:48 PM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: Miztiki

Be afraid, very afraid.


3 posted on 09/24/2008 5:44:07 PM PDT by VA Voter
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To: Miztiki

This is above my pay grade.


4 posted on 09/24/2008 5:46:14 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Miztiki
Even during the height of great depression, 70% of Americans were employeed - my grandfather worked in the steel mills and always had a job ... I guess it depends how prepared you are.

If you have a good mortgage, not too much in loans, reserve cash, and a decent job (or flexible job skills) you should be ok ...

5 posted on 09/24/2008 5:47:22 PM PDT by 11th_VA (VRWC Local 2774 - Working to make DC, RAT free)
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To: Miztiki

The markets will adjust if Bush leaves this thing alone. 95% of people pay their mortgages. This effect maybe 5%, but will effect 100% if Bush pushes this bailout!


6 posted on 09/24/2008 5:47:23 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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To: Miztiki

How can anyone really know what will happen or not happen?


7 posted on 09/24/2008 5:48:20 PM PDT by nobama08
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To: Miztiki

My parents grew up during the depression. They are still alive. They have been calling me. telling me to close all my IRA’s, put the money in the ground, sell everything now and expand my raised beds (4) to 20. No joke. dad even told me to stockpile metal, a spare engine for the truck, cases of motor oil, spare electric motors and enough parts to make a wind generator.


8 posted on 09/24/2008 5:48:37 PM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: Miztiki
The United States has been bankrupt for a long time now and now it is time to pay the piper.

From what I'm hearing in Asia is that the Chinese and others are prepared to cut the rope.

9 posted on 09/24/2008 5:50:49 PM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE and Help Beat Obama)
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To: VA Voter
Small business outlook

most business depend on credit and their customers credit. inventory and consumer credit.

If noboby can get credit then business fails and employees laid off

taxes lost

expenses for local, state and federal goverment lost. obody can get loans if they can they are not enough

( a friend who wealthy had his credit card expire

went to bank and they said he needs to pledge assets to get a new card.

10 posted on 09/24/2008 5:51:15 PM PDT by scooby321 (Cai)
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To: Miztiki
Judging from how Barney Frank sees it as nothing more than another opportunity to buy votes with other peoples' money, I'd say it's just a bunch of the usual Democrat play-acting and it isn't that big a deal at all.

At least judging from Bawney Fwank.

11 posted on 09/24/2008 5:52:58 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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To: 11th_VA

How much reserve cash are we talking about here? Husband is retired...GM pension.

Mortgage is so far, so good, as long as there is the pension.


12 posted on 09/24/2008 5:54:25 PM PDT by madison10 (Pray every day for McCains, Palins and the USA...and the rest of us, too.)
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To: Miztiki

If Congress does nothing it won’t matter how wealthy one is, credit will be unavailable.

If credit is unavailable businesses go bust and people lose jobs. This is a financial nightmare.


13 posted on 09/24/2008 5:54:48 PM PDT by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: Red Boots

ping


14 posted on 09/24/2008 5:57:30 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (In VP's, McCain picked the future, Obama chose the past.)
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To: Miztiki
If it really will cost $700B, it will likely be $1.4T based on typical government overruns.

How much was lost in the aftermath of 9-11-01? If we did NOTHING and let these institutions fail and punish the evildoers, our economy should be resilient enough to bounce back. Markets adjust.

By adopting communistic central control, we may never recover, or it will lead to constant bailouts of multiple industries (oil, automakers, healthcare insurers). Forget about asking “when will this stop?” because it WON'T stop until we are a Marxist state.

We survived 9-11, we survived the S&L crisis, we survived Enron, and we'll survive this. We could install oversight upon oversight, but this crisis HAD oversight that failed tied to overt political corruption with rewards given to idiots (Raines, Johnson, Gorelick, Obama, etc).

I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT TAKING IT ANY LONGER! I carry two mortgages now (at my own choosing) and feel like I will be forced to take on a few more at gunpoint of the Federal government.

I had BETTER get a few more father's day cards this year for all the families I now will support!

15 posted on 09/24/2008 5:58:27 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Miztiki

Judging by the lack of response, I would say that most do not quite know what to make of this.


16 posted on 09/24/2008 5:59:21 PM PDT by bricklayer
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Well, if you ask Hank and Ben, the crisis is exactly the right size for the proposed plan.

Much bigger, and what's the point?

Much smaller, and the Goldman Sachs partners have to settle for Lambos instead of Bugattis next year.

17 posted on 09/24/2008 6:00:15 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (I'll back the bailout if Angelo Mozilo lets me borrow his Lamborghini on Saturday nights.)
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To: Miztiki
I haven't got a handle on all of it but I can tell you that it trickles down. I know some smaller companies that can't make the payroll because everything got tight when banks began to fail. It's like tossing a stone in a pond, it ripples out.

There was another thread where a freeper said they were in retail and their employer was selling what was on the shelves and not buying more stock as their credit line was gone. They needed cash to restock.

Also see Red Boots post here.

18 posted on 09/24/2008 6:07:26 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (In VP's, McCain picked the future, Obama chose the past.)
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To: madison10
How much reserve cash are we talking about here?

Recommended is 3-6 months living expenses, but there is a real possibility the dollar could devalue (inflation). I hope your significant other has a pension that is indexed to inflation - I don't, and that is the one thing that I regret ...

19 posted on 09/24/2008 6:08:17 PM PDT by 11th_VA (VRWC Local 2774 - Working to make DC, RAT free)
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To: sirchtruth

“The markets will adjust if Bush leaves this thing alone. 95% of people pay their mortgages. This effect maybe 5%, but will effect 100% if Bush pushes this bailout!”

That’s true. A bailout would effect 100% of us, because we all use the same money. However, not bailing out would also effect 100% of us, because we all use the same money.


20 posted on 09/24/2008 6:19:21 PM PDT by Tublecane
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