The Obama in Iraq Scandal Continues to Grow: When Will the Investigation Begin??

Radarsite ^ | 9/17/08 | Roger W. Gardner

[Roger W. Gardner]

The Obama Camp Confirms Treason and Logan Act Violations

Cross posted from Snooper's Take Our Country Back

~Snooper~

Wednesday, September 17, 2008

In a previous post entitled, I'll Take "What Is Treason" For The Presidency Alex, located here, I brought to your attention Czarbie's duplicity and complicity in undermining a sitting United States President, General David Petraeus and our Troops. This is just one more incident and example in a long list of treasonous activity perpetrated by Democrat Party Leadership in their quest for dominance, power and control - at any cost. Yet, this isn't the end of the story.In another post entitled, Democrats Want Economy To Tank, located here, I brought to your attention another example of the hideous and double standard ways and means of the Leftinistra within our own government. Again, this isn't the end of the story.As more and more data becomes exposed and more prominent writers than I begin revealing the treasonous and treacherous activities of one Barack Hussein Insane Obama, we begin to see the inner workings of Czarbie's handlers, mainly George Soros.

Roger Guy at Radarsite brings us a list - a growing list - of fellow Enemies of The State and their consortium of those that would subvert America's founding. That piece is entitled, Obama's Endorsements From Our Enemies. IBD Editorials brings us Obama's Double-Dealing Diplomacy that will create an atmosphere of more harm to our Troops all in the name of political gain. As I and many others have so stated, this should be the Scandal of the Century as WUA so stipulates but we will not hold our breathe on that one, shall we?

From IBD: [...] Neither of these claims, often repeated by leftist historians, has ever been proven. But the statement of Iraq's foreign minister, speaking to a leading writer on foreign policy, is considerably stronger as evidence. It signals that Obama places politics over the national interest to the extent that he would work against his own public positions to gull voters into electing him.It's the absolute opposite of John McCain's courageous position supporting the surge in Iraq, even as politicos were warning him he'd lose the election for it. "I'd rather lose an election than lose a war," McCain said.With Obama's promises to sit down with dictators in Venezuela, Cuba, Syria and Iran, voters have a right to ask if he's made any deals at odds with his public condemnations of them, too. Before he starts acting like president, he needs to come clean to voters and reveal his true positions. Whatever they are, voters have a right to know. [END]Yes. Country First, Czarbie. Czarbie says that he also puts country first but no one really knows what he means or which one.

Weasel Zippers brings us the McCain Campaign response to Czarbie's treachery which can be followed here: At this point, it is not yet clear what official American negotiations Senator Obama tried to undermine with Iraqi leaders, but the possibility of such actions is unprecedented. It should be concerning to all that he reportedly urged that the democratically-elected Iraqi government listen to him rather than the US administration in power. If news reports are accurate, this is an egregious act of political interference by a presidential candidate seeking political advantage overseas. Senator Obama needs to reveal what he said to Iraq's Foreign Minister during their closed door meeting. The charge that he sought to delay the withdrawal of Americans from Iraq raises serious questions about Senator Obama's judgment and it demands an explanation. Exactly so.

When will the investigations begin? When will a Special Prosecutor be appointed? When will the Logan Act finally be enforced? Not only does Czarbie need to "explain" what he said, he needs to pony up to the bar, be a man and admit his blatant Logan Act violation and remove himself from any and all political office holding anywhere within the United States and her territories and possessions. Period. Perhaps he would be more at home in a socialist environment in which he feels is the best for mankind.We already know and have seen and witnessed the Czarbie Camp admit to the Logan Act violation in the process of trying to refute the allegations.

Hot Air has a blurb on this but the story keeps growing and growing. Let's take a look shall we?In my original piece, I placed a quote from the New York Post as follows:

WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July."He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion." [...]

Next we have the failed rebuttal which is actually a confirmation that Czarbie did in fact have these "chats" on his world tour of Look At Me I Am The One.

[...] Obama’s national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said Taheri’s article bore “as much resemblance to the truth as a McCain campaign commercial.”In fact, Obama had told the Iraqis that they should not rush through a “Strategic Framework Agreement” governing the future of US forces until after President George W. Bush leaves office, she said. [...]

I see no difference between the two quotes whatsoever. None. No daylight between them. They are composed with different verbiage but the intent and message is the same. I will provide a Snooper paraphrase for you and, yes, you can quote me if you so desire: I am The One and I will be The One that you will have to deal with in February and I need, no, I demand that you ignore that cracker Bush guy and listen up. Leave these idiot jerks with guns in your country until I get into office so that I can claim the victory and bring the Troops home. You guys REALLY screwed up by getting all of these benchmarks accomplished and it really pisses me off. So, do not agree to anything the current President has to say about anything. OK? Are we clear?"And that about sums it all up right there as far as I am concerned.

Newsbusters asks a really silly question but, to be fair, it has to be asked: Why Is Media Ignoring Accusations Obama Interfered With Iraq Withdrawal Negotiations? You can read that one right here. It really is a silly question though, isn't it? We already know the answer as we are thinking about asking it, don't we? Don't we? The piece ends thusly: [...] This is a new low for Senator Obama. The Senate should investigate this as a violation of the Constitution and seperation of powers, but don’t expect them to. The media should be all over this, but you will hear as least as possible about this from them. [END]Unless some in DC and within Law Enforcement actually grows some spine, this action and others like it will go unaddressable to the nation's peril. Some enemies within will claim Free Speech and disregard the consequences thereof.

Others blogging: Wizbang - Yid With Lid - Confederate Yankee - Redstate - American Power - Power Line - drillanwr (PD) - PJM - VFF's Pete Hegseth - Tanker Brothers - Perri Nelson - Macsmind - Ironic Surrealism - STACLU - Mr Pink Eyes - TAB - AP -Witness troll blathering at Memeorandum here...and here...

And the story keeps getting deeper and deeper: PD dot com: The Obama campaign spent more than five hours on Monday attempting to figure out the best refutation of the explosive New York Post report that quoted Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari as saying that Barack Obama during his July visit to Baghdad demanded that Iraq not negotiate with the Bush Administration on the withdrawal of American troops. Instead, he asked that they delay such negotiations until after the presidential handover at the end of January.

The three problems, according to campaign sources: The report was true, there were at least three other people in the room with Obama and Zebari to confirm the conversation, and there was concern that there were enough aggressive reporters based in Baghdad with the sources to confirm the conversation that to deny the comments would create a bigger problem.Instead, Obama’s national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi told reporters that Obama told the Iraqis that they should not rush through what she termed a “Strategic Framework Agreement” governing the future of U.S. forces until after President Bush left office. In other words, the Iraqis should not negotiate an American troop withdrawal.

According to a Senate staffer working for Sen. Joseph Biden, Biden himself got involved in the shaping of the statement. “The whole reason he’s on the ticket is the foreign policy insight,” explained the staffer. [END]So, now, Joe Biden is involved in trying to cover up and explain away a clear Logan Act violation. Sweet.S

more at Memeorandum...

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A note from Radarsite: The American people have spoken. This story will not be buried. This is just the beginning. We will not allow our government, or our troops to be undermined for Barack Obama's personal political gain. This will not stand. We will not let up. We do want justice. - rg

[forYourChildrenVote4Bush]

BTW, where the h*ll is Howie Carr on this? Where is Hannity, Rush...WTF?????

Every time i see a post like this, i will end it with the following:

“...Obama was willing to SACRIFICE the lives of AMERICAN SOLDIERS to ADVANCE his POLITICAL career....”

*TREASONGATE!!!!!!!!!

*TREASONGATE!!!!!!!!!

*TREASONGATE!!!!!!!!!

*TREASONGATE!!!!!!!!!

*TREASONGATE!!!!!!!!!

[Miss Didi]

OBAMA: And, yes, bring a responsible end to the war in Iraq, so we stop spending billions each month rebuilding their country when we should be rebuilding ours.

RUSH: Stop the tape. This is brazen, because we now know that Barack Obama, when he was in Baghdad in July, sought a deal with the Iraqi foreign minister for them to suspend any plan on the withdrawal of US troops until after the presidential election. He has been running around campaigning he's going to get these troops out of there, he's going to get 'em out of there now, this is the first thing he's going to do, it was unjust war, shouldn't have been fought. He raised a lot of money on this basis from the kook fringe. He goes over to Bagdhad and says, hey, wait a minute, can you guys wait? And this borders on treason. This is something that McCain ought to be hammering. He is not allowed to do this. He is not entitled to do this, to go negotiate on behalf of the United States as a presumptive president, which is what he was on that trip. He went to Berlin as a presumptive president, president-in-waiting. And to go strike a deal to tell the Iraqis, hey, hang on. Now folks, let me tell you something. I mentioned this the first day I heard the story, and it's been confirmed, Amir Taheri reported this in the New York Post and he confirmed it in another column today. The Obama campaign confirmed it as well when they sought to deny it.

It's now been revealed that they spent five hours trying to figure out how to respond to this, because they were caught. There was a man named Gary Sick, highly respected at Columbia University back in the early nineties who wrote a book filled with abject lies that George H. W. Bush had flown to Paris on the eve of the 1980 election, struck a deal with the Iranians to make sure the American hostages were held until after the election and then released when Ronald Reagan either had been elected or was inaugurated. The Drive-By Media and Tom Foley, the speaker of the House at the time, this was before he started stealing food off of airline flights he was on when he retired, he said the seriousness of this charge is such that we must investigate it. He said, "Despite the fact that there's limited evidence here, the seriousness of the charge means we must investigate it." Well, we not only have a serious charge, we have confirmation of a serious charge. There needs to be an investigation of what Obama was doing.

Now, I don't know when he put this together, this two-minute ad. But if he put this ad together after this Iraq story came out, this is foolhardy, because there are enough people out there that are going to blow smithereens this whole concept that we need to get out of Iraq, we need to get out now so that we can start saving money that we're spending in Iraq and spending here. He wants to keep the troops of the United States in Iraq until at least 2011 or 2012. And why? Because he wants to be able to claim he brought victory. That's what all this is about. Before Bush leaves office, if they can secure defeat they'll do it if they could blame it on Bush. They tried for a year and a half, but there's a guy that got in the way of that. His name is General David Petraeus and they tried to destroy him as well. So now that their attempt to secure defeat failed and hang the noose of failure around the neck of George W. Bush, now all of a sudden what does Obama want? He wants us to stay in Iraq, and he went over and talked to the Iraqis about it, in violation of US law. He wants to be able to thus get credit for bringing the troops home, he wants to get credit for victory, bringing the troops home. It's all a scam, folks. This is a great example of the fraudulent, phoniness, total plastic banana, good-time rock 'n' rollerness that is Barack Obama.

Stop-Start Analysis of Obama Ad: It's an Address from the Dictator



On Summer Trip to Iraq, Obama Tried to Delay US Troop Pullout



Obama Camp Confirms Treasonous Actions on Iraq Trip

[KoRn]

The media are too busy talking about tanning beds, and don’t have time to look into this....

This is a major SCANDAL, and nothing is being done about it!!

If a republican were to have tried to manipulate the Iraqis in any way, the media and their democrat friends would be raising hell.

[Roger W. Gardner]

Thanks for those great and informative responses.
We will not let this one go.
rg

[j_k_l]

Rush has spent time on this every day since it broke.

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL!! GET ON YOUR EMAIL ACCOUNTS!!!

[Minus_The_Bear]

send to Drudge as well

[forYourChildrenVote4Bush]

I sent out emails....But as a Canadian, it shouldn’t be me!

Its YOU GUYS that need to flood them with emails...Im sure you guys have a huge network of people!!!!!

Come on guys!!

[forYourChildrenVote4Bush]

Oh yeah, i forgot:

“...Obama was willing to SACRIFICE the lives of AMERICAN SOLDIERS to ADVANCE his POLITICAL career....”

*TREASONGATE!!!!!!!!!

*TREASONGATE!!!!!!!!!

*TREASONGATE!!!!!!!!!

*TREASONGATE!!!!!!!!!

*TREASONGATE!!!!!!!!!

[forYourChildrenVote4Bush]

At any one time there must be a couple of thousand people logged in on free republic...

We could flood people with emails at one time????

Can you get us some email addresses????

Maybe we can coordinate??

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

BTTT for All Ye Ping List Masters.

I've sent my entire inbox this message.

Who is going to NutUp and do the same? Post after you've done it and let yourself be counted!

[forYourChildrenVote4Bush]

I’ve already told every i know...the problem here is we don’t have the network you guys have in the States, being Canadian that is...You guys must have a huge network of people...

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

I’ve already told every i know

Then you Sir, are a Patriot.

Thank you!

[Reid Folly]

Throw the Bum out of the Senate.. Can anyone imagine how FAST this Moron would have lasted under FDR.. TRuman.. JFK.. Reagan ??? Leavenworth Splitting Boulders or Firing Squad??

[supercat]

We do want justice.

I want justice too, but this story needs to be dealt with in a somewhat subdued manner. If it gets too big, it will hurt Republicans. Allow me to explain. There are two scenarios, both bad:

1. If the government takes action sufficient to knock Obama out of the race, the move will be seen as politically motivated. Obama's replacement, whoever it happens to be, will win in a landslide and pardon Obama upon being sworn in.

2. If the government does not take such action, many people will regard its failure to take such action as a sign that the Republicans' smears are without merit (and consequently that the Republicans are liars). This would not be quite as disastrous as scenario #1, but it would still be likely to hurt Republicans more than Democrats.

The only way I can see to win this is to avoid characterizing Obama's actions as criminal, but instead suggest a disregard for protocol that could be disastrous in a President.

[chessplayer]

“When Will the Investigation Begin??”

Never. The media is in the tank for The One.

[Roger W. Gardner]

I understand but disagree. I for one am not going to take a more subdued manner on this story. To me, this sounds like — if a bully slaps you, you’d better not slap him back or he might get mad. Your scenarios are based on a series of suppositions and hypotheticals. What we are faced with is real, real here and now treachery, and we cannot just let it go by with some meaningless moral condemnation. What he has allegedly done in Iraq may very well be criminal, at the very least it should disqualify him from the race. The only way to find out is to have a fair and open investigation.
Not only do I refuse to be subdued about this whole outrageous Iraq affair, but I’m going to do whatever I can to keep it in the public’s attention.

[Bommer]

I think you’re blowing your wad too soon. Remember, take him down now and they still have tiome to get Hillary on the ballot. Build slowly and strick the last week in October when its too late to change the ballots!

[supercat]

I understand but disagree. I for one am not going to take a more subdued manner on this story. To me, this sounds like — if a bully slaps you, you’d better not slap him back or he might get mad

The problem isn't that the bully might get mad. The problem is that unless you're very careful, the teacher who sees you respond to the bully will blame you for everything.

Many conservatives don't understand liberals' thought processes. While one may quite reasonably regard the distortions in liberals' thinking as worthless, such assessment wouldn't alter the fact that liberals vote. If the goal is to have liberals to vote for McCain rather than Obama, it's important to recognize what actions will make that more or less likely. If a particular action would cause 5,000,000 liberals to vote for Obama for some stupid reason, the action would probably be unwise. It wouldn't matter how stupid the reason for liberals' behavior might be--a vote's a vote.

If this issue with Barack Obama is not handled delicately, McCain's supporters are going to alienate a lot of voters. While they should be mad at Obama, they'll instead blame the messenger while giving Obama himself a pass. If you try to tell those people that Obama committed treason, they'll hate you. If, however, you instead ask those people whether Obama's action didn't seem perhaps a bit presumptuous, given that he isn't yet President-elect, they may agree that Obama shouldn't have done what he did. Not a huge step, but each such step will create another gap in the Liberal Mind Fog as it becomes apparent that Barack is doing a lot of silly things.