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FactCheck's photos of Obama's birth certificate just proved that their posted image of it was forged
The Greater Evil ^ | 08/21/2008 | Polarik

Posted on 08/22/2008 7:51:31 PM PDT by Polarik

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To: sinanju
Before running down that route be advised that this is a recently created and printed document using fonts appropriate to this time.

There's really no such thing as an "original birth certificate". Even way back in the early 1960s the State of Indiana had computer generated certificates (attesting to birth, etc., on such and such a date at such and such a place) which were required to be "signed by computer" in multi-colored ink.

I have one.

Works fine too.

Virtually all birth records are maintained in electronic data bases (or on CDs), and as needed documents are created based on the information contained in them. That's a worldwide phenomenon too.

21 posted on 08/22/2008 8:26:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Polarik

“Fact Check” is linked to the Obama campaign and thus has NO credibility.


22 posted on 08/22/2008 8:30:57 PM PDT by newzjunkey (YES on CA PROP 4. (Family notification for underage abortions))
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To: Polarik

Um...why are we wracking our brains for insight into the factcheck photos of the purported BC? How about the fact that it’s a photo, shot at a distance at an angle, and not a high res scan? Not even a close up photo of the doc is shown. The photos of the signature and seal shot in separate photos and not shown on the doc. They could be from anything. Where’s a scan?

By using photos, they are preventing analysis by doc examiners. The left is always doing whatever they can for plausible deniability...even if it’s implausible. If Obama had a certified copy of his BC, he would be shoving it down out rightwing throats with a B-52. But he’s not. The absence of a high res scan of the complete doc precludes the need for any further analysis..


23 posted on 08/22/2008 8:33:01 PM PDT by tefis (Time for the truth to be told!)
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To: Polarik; Rushmore Rocks; Fred Nerks; Calpernia; Kevmo; null and void; pissant; george76; ...

Thanks, Polarik and Rushmore Rocks.

Ping.

Please FRmail to be added or removed.


24 posted on 08/22/2008 8:33:23 PM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver....is anyone's guess....August 25 - 28, 2008)
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To: ken21
so why doesn’t this get legs on the national media?

Mr Berg will be on Coast to Coast with George Noory tonight . www.coasttocoastam.com

25 posted on 08/22/2008 8:35:54 PM PDT by kbennkc (What passes for optimism is most often an intellectual error)
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To: kimmie7
Donnie??

Is that you, Donnie???

Nope.

Donnie is too busy giving the tongue to this guy


26 posted on 08/22/2008 8:36:51 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: kbennkc

that will begin to get the word out.


27 posted on 08/22/2008 8:36:51 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Polarik

Good to see that you’re still on the job. :-)


28 posted on 08/22/2008 8:40:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: LucyT

So is everyone elses head spinning? The audacity is past humorous, it is approaching scary with the reality of how many people must be owned by the Weathermen/SDS crowd to be pulling all of this off at this level.


29 posted on 08/22/2008 8:41:55 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: muawiyah
There's really no such thing as an "original birth certificate".

I have one.

30 posted on 08/22/2008 8:42:40 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Calpernia

So is everyone elses head spinning?<

Thanks, Cal. Yes. It’s tough keeping up.

I just added this link to the long thread.


31 posted on 08/22/2008 8:47:49 PM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver....is anyone's guess....August 25 - 28, 2008)
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To: Red Steel

Issued by which government?


32 posted on 08/22/2008 8:54:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tefis
If Obama had a certified copy of his BC, he would be shoving it down out rightwing throats with a B-52. But he’s not. The absence of a high res scan of the complete doc precludes the need for any further analysis..

But but but the Obama apologists say that Obama is using this as subterfuge and he will spring his "real birth certificate" at the right moment to discredit all his distracters. LoL!

33 posted on 08/22/2008 8:58:54 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: muawiyah

Issued by California.


34 posted on 08/22/2008 9:00:47 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: muawiyah

I have an original certificate. It is not unreasonable to expect to see one from BO - especially since he refers, in his book, to one in his possesion.

What computer generated certificates are you refering to in the early 60’s??? The only recording back then was microfiche. Are you thinking about present day computer scanned copies of microfiche? Surely!


35 posted on 08/22/2008 9:06:57 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: muawiyah

OK, splitting hairs. I went to my file... my BC title says “Certified Copy of Birth Record” and “Certificates of Birth”

With Floyd A. Hicks the certifying official signed by his deputy Pat Hogan. And the embossed seal is very visible.

I have one Obama where’s yours?


36 posted on 08/22/2008 9:09:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: tefis
Um...why are we wracking our brains for insight into the factcheck photos of the purported BC? How about the fact that it’s a photo, shot at a distance at an angle, and not a high res scan? Not even a close up photo of the doc is shown. The photos of the signature and seal shot in separate photos and not shown on the doc. They could be from anything. Where’s a scan?

By using photos, they are preventing analysis by doc examiners. The left is always doing whatever they can for plausible deniability...even if it’s implausible. If Obama had a certified copy of his BC, he would be shoving it down out rightwing throats with a B-52. But he’s not. The absence of a high res scan of the complete doc precludes the need for any further analysis..

If I did not have a pair of 2007 COLBs, I'd be asking for them, too. But, you read the list of things that I found on it which were not on the image. in reality, the downloadable photos are large enough AND show plenty of detail for me.

Try downloading them from the list they posted in the aidebar.

37 posted on 08/22/2008 9:12:05 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: bossmechanic
I turned 18 in 1962. Went to the State House (actually the office building) in downtown Indianapolis and got a dozen copies of my birth certificate.

The certificates were provided in just a few minutes, all nice and neat, and run off by a chain printer on snap apart 20 lb paper.

They were "signed by computer" ~ and yes, there were devices in 1962 called "computers" and they did stuff.

What we didn't have at that time were "chips" ~ they showed up in widespread commercial use a little later. The IBM 360 still used "core" technology in 1969, but that line as it was further developed switched to chips as fast as they could be provided. I think the IBM chip factory in Manassas VA was built by the early 1970s.

Obama was born during an era when the US government had taken the lead in tasking then nascent computer systems with performing large scale administrative tasks, e.g. Social Security, Income Tax, federal personnel system, DOD logistics, ICBM targeting systems, atom bomb tests, etc.

The State of Hawaii had only recently been formed out of the Territory of Hawaii. No doubt they were one of the earliest states to sign on to using computers. Indiana was too.

Civil registration laws, however, were in place for 50+ years at the time and a line in a church baptismal book was no longer sufficient. The governments maintained the files, then the data bases, and they still do that function.

38 posted on 08/22/2008 9:16:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ken21
so why doesn’t this get legs on the national media?

If enough people join other blogs to spread the news, it will. As iot turns out TownHall was not the best place to post mu blog;. But, ya gotta dance with what brought ya.

I'm sending out a few feelers of my own.

39 posted on 08/22/2008 9:17:07 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: kimmie7
Donnie?? Is that you, Donnie???

"Ronnie" would be closer. My first name is Ron.

40 posted on 08/22/2008 9:19:04 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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