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To: FredZarguna

No, I can’t buy into your pedophile fantasy. That was more revealing than I think you expected.

Btw, I have expressed support for the law. You are the one who objects to the judge’s lawful ruling that the father must pay a small fraction of his baby’s expenses, based on your claim that raping a baby is no worse than having consensual sex with someone close to your own age. The doesn’t support your depraved fantasy.

I believe men are as capable of doing the right thing as women are. That isn’t hating men. It isn’t even hating men who choose to do the wrong thing, and then try to dodge their responsibilities and blame the people they hurt along the way, calling their victims “punishment” for the non-victimization of the perpetrator. It’s just what most people believe. Most people believe that each person is responsible for their own behavior. Some people either have never considered that possibility, or just think reality doesn’t apply to them. Those are the kind of people who believe it’s okay for them to do the depraved things you talked about, because reality doesn’t apply to them, and their rape fantasies toward and actual rape of babies is okay because they claim it’s no worse than consensual sex, because rape is whatever the liberals decide it is today.


56 posted on 08/19/2008 5:36:08 PM PDT by BykrBayb (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 3, who won't be voting for McCain. ~)
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To: BykrBayb
No, I can’t buy into your pedophile fantasy. That was more revealing than I think you expected.

All your infantile name-calling and projection has "revealed" is more misanthropy. Project all you like: you are the one who thinks a nineteen year-old-woman should be allowed to rape a fifteen year old boy without consequences -- in fact given rewards -- not me.

Btw, I have expressed support for the law.

No, you have not. You continue to pretend that this soon-to-be-convicted rapist is simply a single-mother, who deserves to be awarded a stipend for her crime and incredibly bad judgment.

You are the one who objects to the judge’s lawful ruling that the father must pay a small fraction of his baby’s expenses, based on your claim that raping a baby is no worse than having consensual sex with someone close to your own age.

Apparently, you're as dim-witted as you are man-hating. Now get this straight: There was NO consensual sex in this case, because a fifteen year-old is NOT capable of giving consent. Developmentally, a fifteen year-old is significantly different from a nineteen year-old. The law recognizes this; you don't.

Second, the judge's ruling, unfortunately for your twisted concept of "responsibily" is not likely to be upheld, and is not likely to be considered lawful on appeal. In Ohio, a criminal cannot obtain any compensation in relation outcomes derived directly or indirectly from the conviction of a felony. The only thing that would keep this from being overturned is a sensible amortization of legal costs vs. $50/month. The [law] doesn’t support your depraved fantasy.

Keep writing. Your posts get kookier with each response -- the best way for people in this forum to judge the quality of your putative "thoughts" is by having you continue to rave.

I hope this women goes to prison for the maximum length of time -- the law supports me in this regard, not you. I'm glad to see she'll be registered as the rapist that she is for the next 25 years, again, the law support my position on this not yours. Men go to prison in this country every day for this crime; and they should, and so should female rapists.

The only "fantasy" I have is that the judge will grant custody to the boy's parents with the stipulation that the adoptive parents must move so far away that these two losers will never have the slightest chance of seeing their progeny: it's unlikely either of them would try, even more unlikely either will ever have a job that allows them to save for a bus ticket.

Unfortunately, this is a fantasy and nothing more. Grandparents have no standing. It's a shame because the fate of the baby in this case is all but graven in stone (as, sadly, was the fate of the rapist who produced him.)

Talk about punishing the child: this baby is already being punished, before he's was even born: his father is a boy and his mother is a rapist with a family of even bigger losers than she is.

I believe men are as capable of doing the right thing as women are.

Very generous of you. All the men in the world have breathed a sigh of relief at your magnanimity, your majesty... Yawn.

That isn’t hating men. It isn’t even hating men who choose to do the wrong thing, and then try to dodge their responsibilities and blame the people they hurt along the way, calling their victims “punishment” for the non-victimization of the perpetrator.

Again: the there is no "man" in this story. There is a boy and his female rapist. She is not the "victim" of anyone but herself. Under our law, however -- whether you like it or not -- that boy is a victim, and this rapist will shortly discover that at her sentencing hearing. Apparently, you will not, no matter how many times you're told.

It’s just what most people believe. Most people believe that each person is responsible for their own behavior.

One person is not a they. In English, one person is a he. Even your grammatical errors are misanthropic. But again, your legal reasoning is absurd: courts do not regard children as bearing the same level of responsibility as adults. In every jursidiction I am aware of, quite apart from the question of rape, the nineteen year old is an adult, and the fifteen year old is a juvenile.

Some people either have never considered that possibility, or just think reality doesn’t apply to them.

Queue the theme from Lost in Space.

Those are the kind of people who believe it’s okay for them to do the depraved things you talked about, because reality doesn’t apply to them,

The woman in the story is just such a person, and you are the one defending her. Please try NOT to refute your own silly arguments.

and their rape fantasies toward and actual rape of babies is okay because they claim it’s no worse than consensual sex,

There was sex. There was no consent. Learn the law before you post this drivel again.

because rape is whatever the liberals decide it is today

Statutory rape laws precede the advent of modern liberalism by several decades; there are even some variations on them that go back into English Common Law: they have nothing to do with modern liberalism at all. Please do a little research.

The woman is a rapist. Case closed. Nothing you've said changes that, but it has betrayed you as a man-hater with extremely limited debating skills. I urge you in the strongest possible terms to keep on posting. In fact, I'd love you to start a blog! I especially like the personal attacks: they really drive your insane, blind, hatred home. Don't worry -- I won't ask an Admin Mod to intervene -- I'd like folks perusing these threads to see you in all your glory.

59 posted on 08/20/2008 2:29:44 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Would you like a little more nuance with your er-um-uh-ah?)
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