To: Daniel T. Zanoza
Typical un-named source anti-hospice materiel from a group that advocates prolonging life no matter how much pain the terminally ill patient is enduring.
Let them experience the pain for 24, or 2400 hours, then possibly re-evaluate their position.
2 posted on
08/16/2008 11:15:46 AM PDT by
MindBender26
(Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
To: MindBender26
As some of who is prolife, this kind of thing is embarassing and counterproductive. I suppose one could make the argument that hospice speeds up a death by giving opiates. It slows down breathing. im sure there have been some folks who died that way. but not intentionally.
this kind of thing gives the pro choice side more ammo.
To: MindBender26
I will say this. The people who wrote this article have never been terminally ill.
To: MindBender26
“Let them experience the pain for 24, or 2400 hours, then possibly re-evaluate their position.”
Agreed. When cancer is growing in your lungs and you have progressive air hunger you would hope that those taking care of you make sure you get what you need to dull the pain and quell the fear.
To: MindBender26
Typical un-named source anti-hospice materiel from a group that advocates prolonging life no matter how much pain the terminally ill patient is enduring.
Let them experience the pain for 24, or 2400 hours, then possibly re-evaluate their position.
Well, it is wrong to hasten death, from what I understand when I listen to Art Bell and George Noory when this topic comes up, for some people, this is part of the life experience and even when this is cut short, it can affect the Afterlife. I can't prove it one way or another but I leave these things up to God. If I may borrow from another religion, there is a belief in Buddhism where "all life is suffering until one achieves Nirvana," a state of total bliss and lack of want. Again, perhaps this is part of the process. Coming back to Earth, bringing about death faster is a slipperly slope to promoting it in the future.
26 posted on
08/16/2008 3:35:37 PM PDT by
Nowhere Man
(Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
To: MindBender26
Typical un-named source anti-hospice materiel from a group that advocates prolonging life no matter how much pain the terminally ill patient is enduring.
Let them experience the pain for 24, or 2400 hours, then possibly re-evaluate their position.
Well, it is wrong to hasten death, from what I understand when I listen to Art Bell and George Noory when this topic comes up, for some people, this is part of the life experience and even when this is cut short, it can affect the Afterlife. I can't prove it one way or another but I leave these things up to God. If I may borrow from another religion, there is a belief in Buddhism where "all life is suffering until one achieves Nirvana," a state of total bliss and lack of want. Again, perhaps this is part of the process. Coming back to Earth, bringing about death faster is a slipperly slope to promoting it in the future.
27 posted on
08/16/2008 3:35:45 PM PDT by
Nowhere Man
(Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
To: MindBender26
Typical un-named source anti-hospice materiel from a group that advocates prolonging life no matter how much pain the terminally ill patient is enduring. Let them experience the pain for 24, or 2400 hours, then possibly re-evaluate their position.
If you're talking about starvation/dehydration (as done to Terri Shiavo) I say you need to grow a pair, look the patient in the eyes and drag a blade across their throat.
If you're going to murder someone, then murder them.
30 posted on
08/16/2008 8:04:32 PM PDT by
Grizzled Bear
("Does not play well with others.")
To: MindBender26; Daniel T. Zanoza
Typical un-named source anti-hospice materiel from a group that advocates prolonging life no matter how much pain the terminally ill patient is enduring. Let them experience the pain for 24, or 2400 hours, then possibly re-evaluate their position.In my family's experience, even if you have no pain, hospitals will try to push you into hospice and deny treatment if they deem you "too old" or "too far along." If you as a perfectly coherent patient refuse it and plead for treatment, they will refuse to help you. They push those narcotics because they hasten your demise. Many people in our family have battled cancer, and this is what we have witnessed firsthand.
41 posted on
08/17/2008 8:52:34 PM PDT by
Tired of Taxes
(Dad, I will always think of you.)
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