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Debate on Fox--Lesbian Mom Demands Child Support from Sperm Donor Dad
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| 8/12/08
| Glenn Sacks
Posted on 08/12/2008 12:47:07 PM PDT by PercivalWalks
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To: Centurion2000
I think the difference in this case was that it was NOT anonymous. If it was donor 47890 who made said kids, donor 47890 cannot be made to owe money.
This guy made kids, though sans sex with the mother. Not anonymous. Thus not free from child support.
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posted on
08/12/2008 2:41:59 PM PDT
by
tbw2
(Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
To: PercivalWalks
The ultimate nerve, approved by radical man-hating feminists everywhere. In their world-view, men are good only for their seed and their money. And they are trying to eliminate the need for the seed.
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posted on
08/12/2008 2:43:32 PM PDT
by
BooksForTheRight.com
(Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
To: BossLady
The judge addressed that question (which is why Glenn Sacks commentary stinks because he ignored that salient point) and the answer was that their agreement didn’t conform to the requirements of the Uniform Parentage Act and so was unenforceable as a matter of public policy.
For a contract to be legally enforceable, it has to conform to the law.
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posted on
08/12/2008 3:43:21 PM PDT
by
Valpal1
(OW! My head just exploded!)
To: PercivalWalks
If a State makes "gay" marriage legal, then won't situations like this be rare? One partner will give the most nurturing care and the other the most financial care and so a divorce will have the one who provided the most finances paying the child support, would it not? And why bring a 'sperm/egg donor' into the situation if there was no legal document outlining what he/she was responsible for. And, IF, as in this case, there seemed to be, how can a Judge rule against an already existing document without more information about the "other half" of the gay-couple? Seems totally UNFAIR and should be appealed.
Just because something is possible, doesn't mean it's wise. (Sperm and Egg donor births.) And if a 'gay' couple want to have a baby, then are they REALLY 'gay?' Why would someone who knows that 2-gender sex is for procreation and has decided to have a same-gender sexual relationship, have a reason or physical desire to produce off-spring? Why would someone be in a same-gender sexual relationship if their hormones were raging for them to produce a baby? Why wouldn't they marry (or have a sexual affair with) someone of the other gender and produce off-spring?
What I can't quite grasp (obviously) is why someone would want to ruin a perfectly good same gender close relationship by bringing sexual intimacy into the equation. I have close friends I love with all my heart, but I would not bring any sexual liaison into the relationship. Male or female. And I can say I love them more than I ever loved either husband.
So, if you can stop laughing at me, FReepMail me an explanation, okay?
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posted on
08/12/2008 3:48:24 PM PDT
by
HighlyOpinionated
(The World is a Tragedy for Those Who Feel (Democrats) but a Comedy to Those Who Think (Republicans).)
To: Valpal1
Thank you for your input! The article alluded to the fact that there had been a contract of some sort however, did not seem to go into any details.
I perused the Uniform Parentage Act and it does state, in so many words, that if a man says he is the father...then he is financially responsible.
To this end, even if you have a contract drawn up....it does not seem to matter. My understanding, according to the UPA, is that if you claim parentage....you are responsible...period. What is your opinion?
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posted on
08/12/2008 4:57:21 PM PDT
by
BossLady
(People will do anything, no matter how absurd, to avoid facing their own soul. ~Carl Jung)
To: BossLady
Their agreement wasn’t waiving their parental rights to the child, but instead tried to waive the child’s right to parental support.
My opinion is that children have a right to the support of their parents and that parents cannot waive the basic rights of their offspring as a matter of public policy.
Nor can they sell their children into slavery or give consent to their minor children being used sexually by others.
The judge was right and Glen Sacks picked an inappropriate case to pimp his agenda.
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posted on
08/12/2008 6:36:17 PM PDT
by
Valpal1
(OW! My head just exploded!)
To: Valpal1
Yours is a much more eloquent way of stating it ;)
Thank you so much!
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posted on
08/12/2008 8:33:11 PM PDT
by
BossLady
(People will do anything, no matter how absurd, to avoid facing their own soul. ~Carl Jung)
To: Bernard Marx
Because we compete with them for the hot babes — and we're much better-equipped to please the hotties.
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posted on
08/13/2008 12:39:57 AM PDT
by
Cheburashka
(Democratic Underground: Ever wonder where all those who took the brown acid at Woodstock wound up?)
To: PercivalWalks
"A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle."
But as my son pointed out...
"A child needs a father like a fish needs water."
Cheers!
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posted on
08/13/2008 4:12:52 AM PDT
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: definitelynotaliberal
No, it will not. The couple didnt use a sperm bank. They used a friend/acquaintance. Substantial benefits for early withdrawal.
Including continued interest.
Cheers!
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posted on
08/13/2008 4:14:36 AM PDT
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: grey_whiskers
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posted on
08/13/2008 4:31:54 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("This is our duty: to zot their sorry arses into the next time zone." ~ Admin Mod)
To: PercivalWalks
The “best interests” of the child is always justice between the parents.
That being said, if people could follow God’s laws on sexual morality a little more closely, a whole lot of these problems wouldn’t exist.
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posted on
08/13/2008 9:58:00 AM PDT
by
chesley
( Ya can't make chick'n dumplin's outta chick'n feathers!!)
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