Posted on 08/11/2008 8:16:28 AM PDT by foutsc
I remember back a few years seeing Free Tibet bumper stickers on progressive Saabs and hippie VWs. Tibet is still in China's clutches, Russia is busy slapping around it's former vassal states, but the world is focused on the supposed crimes of George Bush.
I can understand the argument that we never should have invaded Iraq, although I think that point is now moot. I can also understand those who think war is wrong and who insist that might doesn't make right.
What I can't understand is those on the left who criminalize the Iraq invasion but see nothing wrong with Ivan putting a knife to Georgia's throat because she runs a competing pipeline and cozies up to Uncle Sam.
Who champions the whole "Iraq as disaster" meme? Scared, jealous neighbors who don't want their own despotic teacups turned over, and peace-at-all-cost Europeans who were profiting nicely from the Saddam-era status quo. And American progressives who used to stand for freedom have jumped right in.
Can't these progressives see the illogic in protesting the Iraq invasion but giving China and Russia a free pass every time they brass knuckle a neighbor or support oppression in Africa because they need the natural resources and subservient political allies?
Here are a few examples of Bush-bashing progressives defending Russia's naked aggression:
magnifco1000 wrote:The bottom line, the former Soviet Republics have all been sent a message. You have to make peace with Russia, like it or not, and forget the siren call of supposed wealth and riches from the West. It's the call of opportunists and when push comes to shove, they won't be there for you anyway.
jvandeswaluw1 wrote:I would like to wish that George Bush had the same common sense as the Georgian leader; retreat when you know that you can't win. It took the Georgian leader only a few days to realize this; Bush doesn't realize this after more than six years! But George has always been a slow learner.
This guy swallowed Ivan's propaganda hook, line and sinker. He's the same brain surgeon who routinely labels "kool-aid drinker" anyone who believes anything the President says.jellybean1 wrote:Georgia invaded a breakaway region which is protected by Russia. Russia responded with military actions against Georgia. Georgia retreated because of defeat, and declared cease-fire.
All this madness detracts from human rights disasters that flourish due to world inattention and inaction: Reporters languish in Cuban dungeons. Darfur rapes and killings continue, Russia bullies it neighbors, human trafficking... And Tibet still isn't free. So rail against President Bush and our actions if you must. That is your constitutionally-guaranteed right, and government always bears watching. But please stop ignoring and even excusing brutality from other world actors.
I know progressives will never embrace President Bush, but is it too much to ask them to at least embrace intellectual honesty?
“I know progressives will never embrace President Bush, but is it too much to ask them to at least embrace intellectual honesty?”
Yes. Once intellectual honesty is in place, they will no longer be “progressives”.
Apparently it is way too much to ask.
When it comes down to it, it is a form of self-hatred I think.
You want Marxists to embrace intellectual honesty? How quaint.
The entire left is founded on the single principle that there is no truth except the party. These frauds will and do say anything, however outrageous, to justify their cabal.
The Georgians were trying to clean out a nest of Moscow supported thugs who were sucking Georgia dry. The greatest criminal enterprise in the world, Putin’s Moscovites, came to their rescue and are using this as an excuse to eradicate the Georgian government.
It is time to tell the whole truth and put our enemies, domestic Marxists including, in their place.
Question: How do you know that you are the World's only remaining Superpower?
Answer: Your only serious opponents are internal.
“Georgia invaded a breakaway region which is protected by Russia. Russia responded with military actions against Georgia. Georgia retreated because of defeat, and declared cease-fire.”
So we are permitted to open fire on the Aztlan separatists?
Stalinism is a mental disorder. Reds have always defended Mother Russia no matter what the Commies do.
There is no argument to understand about not toppling the Hussein regime. They never honored the surrender agreement, therefore, they continued to be at war with the USA throughout the 1990s and into the year 2003.
Obama responded by saying that if he were President, he would fly immediately down to Atlanta and negotiate peace directly with the invading Russians.
I didn’t say I agree with it, just that I can understand it.
And I don't understand any of their arguments. That's all I am saying. When a regime doesn't honor a surrender agreement (UNSCR 687, or 688, I forget) then we are still at war.
I’m not trying to pick a fight. I can understand their point even though I don’t agree with it. I actually agree with your point.
I know there are many who subscribe to the Limbaugh view that libs are not to be understood, just defeated. I guess I just have a morbid curiosity that asks “why do they think the way they do?”
Understood.
Non-progressives like these lefties are not smart enough to think for themselves. Hence their irrational and infantile thoughts. It’s a shame so many people have never grown up.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.