I have not personally double checked.....I wonder if Obama really said this stuff in his books?

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=23188 ^

[dascallie]

www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=23188

Christines Presidential Member = >1000 Posts

The General Public is Beginning to Understand That Obama is Scary!

I got this in my private email today from a relative that doesn't get involved in politics! She asked me to email it around. I was surprised to get this message from her. I asked her to read the new Jerome Corsi book.

I think people are beginning to get it! There is hope.

Quote: This is scary! PS. I bought this book and read it and these are accurate quotes as far as I remember. FYI

Think you know who this man is? This possible President of the United States ?? Read Below and ask yourselves, is this REALLY someone we can see as the President of our great nation!!!!

Below are a few lines from Obama's books; In his words!

From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

And FINALLY the Most Damming one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

[TheThinker]

From what I have heard and put together, I think I understand Black Liberation Theology. In a nutshell, it says that Jesus was black and was crucified by Italians (garlic noses) and betrayed by Jews. It also says that like the Romans, whites and the United States are imperialists that oppress the rest of the world, particularly minorities. This theology is very close to some of the views of modern Islamic scholars. It seems Obama has been the beneficiary of the influences of both ideologies.

[Hildy]

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

Yes and no...that one sentence is taken out of context from what he was saying...what he said was this:

Actual quote from Page 261:
"Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

[no dems]

The info you posted in Post #21 needs to be made available to American Jews and Italians.

[ETL]

And FINALLY the Most Damming one of ALL of them!!!
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

That is a misquote, and likely deliberate. the Left typically starts these sorts of e-mail rumors, internet hoax or partial hoax stories in an effort to discredit or minimize the genuine damaging stories. We need to be careful not to help them spread this BS around. It hurts the TRUE case against Obama.

Not Muslims, but Arab-Americans

A chain e-mail going around takes statements out of context from Sen. Barack Obama's books Dreams from My Father and The Audacity of Hope.

The e-mail was sent to us by 20 PolitiFact readers who said they wanted to know if the claims were true. (For more on the e-mail and a link to its full text, read our article on Obama's book.)

The e-mails states, "From The Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.' "

The quote comes from page 261 of the paperback edition of The Audacity of Hope. In the full passage, Obama talks about speaking in front of audiences of immigrants, and how he often tells them that they embody the American dream.

But he wrote that when he speaks to audiences of Pakistani and Arab-Americans, their message to him has a more urgent quality.

"(T)he stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Obama doesn't mention Muslims here at all; he's clearly talking about U.S. citizens of Arab and Pakistani descent.

Also, the e-mail says Obama would "stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction," implying he made a statement to that effect. But it's clear in reading the text that the words actually represent a question Obama is being asked by his audiences: "they need specific assurances ... that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Though Obama doesn't say so explicitly, he gives the impression his answer is yes.

The e-mail distorts Obama's quote and misrepresents who he was talking about, lumping together an entire religion when he was talking to two groups of people in the context of discrimination. It's a significant alteration to the meaning of what Obama said, and we find it to be False.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/518/

[MediaMole]

Amazon has the book for about 10 bucks. Unless it is a sanitized, revised printing, why buy on Ebay?

[ETL]

From Barack Obama's official website:

“I wanted to make an art piece of Barack Obama because I thought an iconic portrait of him could symbolize and amplify the importance of his mission. I believe Obama will guide this country to a future where everyone can thrive and I should support him vigorously for the sake of my two young daughters. I have made art opposing the Iraq war for several years, and making art of Obama, who opposed the war from the start, is like making art for peace. I know I have an audience of young art fans and I’m delighted if I can encourage them to see the merits of Barack Obama.”

-Shepard Fairey
http://store.barackobama.com/product_p/po26951.htm

See? It's all about "peace, love, togetherness" and "change".

Here are some of Fairey's other masterpieces. No joke. Most of his works are along these same lines (anti-American, pro-communist propaganda). Check the link.

Source: The Jonathan Levine Gallery:
http://jonathanlevinegallery.com/?method=Artist.ArtistDetail&ArtistID=F65EBB86-3048-28EB-92D55AA4FC996E31&GalleryID=82C33C59-3048-28EB-92DB386C8C733405

From a 'thank you' letter Barack Obama sent to Shepard Fairey:
"Dear Shepard, I would like to thank you for using your talent in support of my campaign. The political messages involved in your work have encouraged Americans to believe they can help change the status quo. Your images have a profound effect on people, whether seen in a gallery or on a stop sign.'"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/16/AR2008051601017.html

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

From Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

Snopes is eager to minimize the quotations you cited, and in the case of the "quote"

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

they claim, perhaps rightly, to have a smoking gun - that the quotation is not from Barry's book but from another person's - and recast into the first person.

But for all snopes' cavils about "context" in the other quotes, their own research shows that between the nominal meaning and the contextual one there is at most a shade of distinction - but not a difference that Obama could win a fight over. Putting the quotes in context would only confirm that the quotes are, to all intents and purposes, dead on. If Snopes is right, of course - but they are making admissions against their own pro-Obama interest.

And, on reflection, that is what will probably make the use of these quotes unnecessary in the long run. The mindset that thinks that there is a difference between those other quotes in context as opposed to out, is a mindset that will betray itself in the campaign - and probably in the Democratic National Convention itself. I seriously doubt that the script writers will have the discipline necessary to filter the self-righteous racism out of a convention that will inevitably feature a lot of militant black speakers. I doubt that Reverend Wright will be at the convention in body - but in spirit, definitely.

I'll be amazed if the "bounce" that comes out of the DNC convention is for Obama. Hillary, maybe . . .

[ETL]

From what I have heard and put together, I think I understand Black Liberation Theology. In a nutshell, it says that Jesus was black and was crucified by Italians (garlic noses) and betrayed by Jews. It also says that like the Romans, whites and the United States are imperialists that oppress the rest of the world, particularly minorities. This theology is very close to some of the views of modern Islamic scholars. It seems Obama has been the beneficiary of the influences of both ideologies.

Black Liberation Theology is a MARXIST theology.

"God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11"
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for twenty years

Wright: "In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns."

"America’s chickens... are coming home... to ROOST!"

______________________________________________________________

Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Obama's pastor and spirtual advisor "crazy uncle" of more than 20 years, honors "Honorable" Minister Louis Farrakhan with the "Jeremiah A. Wright Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer Award" at the 2007 Trumpet Gala held at the Hyatt Regency Chicago.
[it appears the original video was removed, but this one is identical to it]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW2OhkZ0RSg

From the Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam website, FinalCall.com...
Malik Zulu Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP):
"We are happy today to be standing side by side with the Nation of Islam. We believe, like the Nation of Islam and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad believe, in a nation of our own. We believe in a Black first philosophy and a Black Liberation Theology. We don’t worry about the criticism. We love all of those who labored in the Panther Party from the ’60s. Many are with us today."
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1858.shtml

Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02

From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

Catholics for Marx
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

From the New York Times, April 28, 2008
Reverend Wright at the National Press Club
"In the late 1960s, when Dr. James Cone's powerful books burst onto the scene, the term 'black liberation theology' began to be used. I do not in any way disagree with Dr. Cone, nor do I in any way diminish the inimitable and incomparable contributions that he has made and that he continues to make to the field of theology. Jim, incidentally, is a personal friend of mine."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/us/politics/28text-wright.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=sloginL

From Jeff Head's website...
One notable quote from [James] Cone describing his Black Liberation Theology is as follows:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love." - "Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology", in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, by William R Jones, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube (Westminster John Knox Press).
http://www.jeffhead.com/blacklibtheology.htm

HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

YouTube: Glenn Beck on Obama and Black Liberation Theology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cA0GEV1ibY&eurl=http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com/2008/04/im-speechless.html

[ETL]

This theology [Black Liberation] is very close to some of the views of modern Islamic scholars. It seems Obama has been the beneficiary of the influences of both ideologies.

Unless by "both" you meant communist ideology as well? Because it is clearly that (communist ideology) which drives he and his circle of advisers. Trust me, these folks are anything BUT religious fanatics.

[4woodenboats]

It's not surprising that a couple of the Metro Pharoah's words were slightly misqouted, and that snopes would want to defend them.

However, just that 'in context' smattering of O's prose grouped together like snopes did, displayed without a doubt, a very radical, self loathing, hateful racist, and the context of the one liners, grammer aside, has easily been qualified.

[patriot08]

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http://www.examiner.com/a-536474~_Trapped_between_two_worlds_.html
http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Islam_change_the_path_to_president_for_Obama_.html?cid=dc-article-obama

The Obama File
http://theobamafile.com/

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[MichaelAsher54]

Thus, the need to throws past associates under the bus...



Penetrating Insights into the Obvious

[Beckwith]

Here you go.

SHOCKING Obama words: what he really thinks of white folks

The Obama File

[autumnraine]

Thank you very much! I thought I had bookmarked it, but I didn’t. I have riptiger, so now I have it on my computer.

[Beckwith]

When it comes to politics, Snopes should be considered a branch of the Democratic National Committee.

[Beckwith]

What we really need to see is the original book printed in 1996. You can’t find that first publication.

Word!

I tried 4 different libraries and they all had the 2004 edition.

[Beckwith]

Corsi’s book appears to be the leading source.

It's all here -- and it's free.

The Obama File

[ncfool]

Beckwith,

I agree there is a problem here. I a confidant that guys like Corsi have seen the first book or the talkers have it and are doing a compairson of the words. I bet the later editions have become more politically correct versions.

Then again maybe not as Barack has proven not to be the brightest bulb.

[4woodenboats]

When it comes to politics, Snopes should be considered a branch of the Democratic National Committee

Probably, I don't normally run to either them or factcheck.org, for the simple reason that they are far more inclined to defend perceived slights against the left.

There have been instances these sites have come in handy, where bizarre rumors would surface every few years, and they'd end up in a well intentioned email to me - this one nice lady from New Zealand seemed to be a magnet for 'em...I hated to be the one to burst her bubble so many times.

[4woodenboats]

Nice-I’m going to set some time aside to study that. Thanks for your diligence!