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(7/25/08) Qantas Plane Dives 20,000 Feet After Hole Ripped Mid-Air in Fuselage
artorius castus blog ^ | 25 July 08 | AP

Posted on 07/25/2008 6:58:31 AM PDT by cardinal4

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To: dragnet2

It appears the cargo door partially opened and came close to tearing out completely.


41 posted on 07/25/2008 4:56:40 PM PDT by Hal1950
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To: GalaxieFiveHundred

agreed


42 posted on 07/25/2008 6:24:55 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: GalaxieFiveHundred
The close-up photo doesn't appear to reveal any evidence of explosive-related burns or the like

I thought that too, but then I remembered that triacetone triperoxide, TATP, AKA the Mother of Satan, is a favored Jihadie explosive. It was used in the 2005(?) London train bombings, by the idiot who blew himself up outside an OK U football game, and by Richard Reid, who had plastic explosive shoes, but with a TATP detonator.

The stuff produces a pretty "cool" explosion, by the nature of the reaction which produces it.

So I wouldn't rule out an explosion just yet. But the stuff does leave quite a signature, so we should know soon, if they choose to tell us. (TATP contains no nitrogen, and thus can "get by", *some* explosive detection devices.)

43 posted on 07/25/2008 10:30:06 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Hal1950
It appears the cargo door partially opened and came close to tearing out completely.

The cargo door is that rectangular structure somewhat to the right of the hole, just above the head of the guy in the suit talking on a cell phone.

The hole appears to be a ripped off fairing/panel, but not one that is designed to come off. Can't really tell if it was ripped off by aerodynamic forces, say after an edge failed due to stress or corrosion, or if something pushed it out from inside.

44 posted on 07/25/2008 10:39:18 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato; _Jim

You’right.


45 posted on 07/26/2008 8:25:41 AM PDT by Hal1950
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To: AndyJackson

Whatever, it was still absolutely a “dive.” No question about it.


46 posted on 07/27/2008 8:40:09 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: dragnet2

It doesn’t look like an explosion at all. It looks like a faring on the wing root came loose. When the wind pulled the faring off, it ripped a hole in the pressurized fuselage leading to additional damage from decompression.


47 posted on 07/27/2008 9:00:21 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: dragnet2
Explosion in the cargo bay?
Looks just forward of the cockpit ...

/sarc

LOOK at the proximity to the outward-opening forward cargo bay door though ...

48 posted on 10/05/2008 6:19:49 PM PDT by _Jim (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: MediaMole
It doesn’t look like an explosion at all. It looks like a faring on the wing root came loose.
Nevermind what looks like pressure-skin rupture just outside of the structural ribs comprising the 'hold' or baggage compartment ...
49 posted on 10/05/2008 6:21:59 PM PDT by _Jim (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: Hal1950
It appears the cargo door partially opened and ...
???

Take a second look at the 2nd pix in post #24 and issue a revised analysis please.

50 posted on 10/05/2008 6:25:37 PM PDT by _Jim (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: lwd
I read that aluminum planes ...
And the other (talking commercial air transport here) composition would be ???
51 posted on 10/05/2008 6:29:08 PM PDT by _Jim (THIS SPACE FOR RENT, LEASE OR OUTRIGHT SALE)
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To: _Jim
And the other (talking commercial air transport here) composition would be ???

Carbon fiber.

L

52 posted on 10/05/2008 6:32:39 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: Lurker

Is ‘Lurker’ a pseudonym for ‘lwd’?

(The question was a ‘show your homework’ moment meant for lwd.)


53 posted on 10/05/2008 6:34:58 PM PDT by _Jim (THIS SPACE FOR RENT, LEASE OR OUTRIGHT SALE)
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To: Lurker
Carbon fiber.
Furthermore, your answer presuposes that there are 'carbon fiber' composite commercial air tranport aircraft utilizing carbon fiber for the airframe, as we have before us what appears to be a 'rupture' in an aluminum-based airframe, so, what commercial air transports currently flying are 'carbon fiber' based?
54 posted on 10/05/2008 6:41:10 PM PDT by _Jim (THIS SPACE FOR RENT, LEASE OR OUTRIGHT SALE)
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To: _Jim
Bite me.

You posted a question on a public forum.

A member of the forum responded.

You've been around here long enough to know the rules. If you don't like them, leave.

L

55 posted on 10/05/2008 6:42:09 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: Lurker
A member of the forum responded.
Inadequate, unsatifying, and non-contributory (to any possible technical discussion) answer.

In fact, a totally inadequate answer was rendered previosuly as well.

The simple initial answer of 'carbon fiber' totally ignores other composites such as glass-fiber and quartz-fiber reinforced plastics (as used in the A380).

So, even your initial attempt has been shown to be inadequate, perhaps one could call it dated, inexact, lacking up-to-date and current content.

On that basis you are dismissed or excused; your option.

56 posted on 10/05/2008 6:54:14 PM PDT by _Jim (THIS SPACE FOR RENT, LEASE OR OUTRIGHT SALE)
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