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The Plot Thickens: Obama's Birth Certificate and HRS Section 338-18
Mitchell Langbert's Blog ^ | July 12, 2008 | Dr. Mitchell Langbert

Posted on 07/12/2008 9:24:08 AM PDT by Raquel

I have previously requested a copy of Barack Obama's birth certificate. Janice Okubo, Public Information Office of the Communications office of the State of Hawaii, responding on July 3, has chosen to refuse to provide a copy of the birth certificate. This blog consists of three parts. First, I quote Ms. Okubo's letter, dated July 3, 2008, verbatim. Her letter responds to my inquiry under the Freedom of Information Act. Although Ms. Okubo points out that the Freedom of Information applies to the federal government and not the states, most states, including Hawaii, have similar statutes. With respect to birth certificates, though, there is a separate section of the Hawaii Revised Statutes (HRS) that Ms. Okubo cites, HRS § 338-18. The link that Ms. Okubo provides in her hard copy snail mail letter respecting § 338-18 was dead when I tried to use it, but I obtained a copy of HRS § 338-18 from the Lexis-Nexis data base available from New York University's Bobst library. In addition, I obtained information on Hawaii's Uniform Information Practices Act from the State of Hawaii Website. In the second part of this blog, I respond to Ms. Okubo by drafting two letters, one a response to Chiyome Fukino, Director of Health, Ms. Okubo's superior, with a copy to Ms. Okubo and Governor Linda Lingle (R-HI), and also a letter to Barack Obama requesting that he send me a letter authorizing me to represent him in obtaining a copy of his birth certificate in the interest of avoiding accusations of political gamesmanship and manipulation. In the third section I copy the relevant sections from § 338-18 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes for your reference. I also quote from the State of Hawaii Website about its "Uniform Information Law" booklet.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: 2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; elections; expose; fraud; hawaii; issues; obama; obamatruthfile; unfit
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To: MindBender26

So where was he born and how do you know he was born there?


101 posted on 07/21/2008 6:42:59 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
I don't know to a legal certainly where he was born.

I do know that many people who have a very strong practical interest in his citizenship status (DNC, Edwards, Clinton, Biden, etc) checked it all out VERY thoroughly months ago, (their OPO Research budget was probably $750,000 to $1,250,000 EACH) and had there been an issue, they would have been screaming it from the rooftops.

If RNC knew, they would probably have tried to sit on it until after the D national convention, but it would have leaked (everything does.)

Please see my #100.

Let's concentrate on the real issues.

PS, God forbid he ISN'T a citizen! If he was disqualified, then we get Hillary in the General, and she would be much harder to beat.

Obama is another Dukakis or McGovern. The DNC has again allowed their far-left primary system to nominate a far-left candidate who will get buried in the General!

Be well

102 posted on 07/21/2008 6:53:41 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: McGruff
I read in the New York Post yesterday that Hillary backers have reserved HRC2012 web page. She's not going away...
103 posted on 07/21/2008 6:57:46 AM PDT by Raquel (Read my commentary here www.raquelokyay.com)
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To: MindBender26

I doubt the DNC checked it out. The fact the Obama campaign hasn’t killed this issue is very telling. He can’t afford any more distractions like this. They worked so hard to kill the Muslim thing and now they are letting this fester? It doesn’t make sense.

The Obama campaign has been devastated by viral rumoring. They have refused to allow a 3rd party to close the matter. That makes me really suspicious. Can you imagine what the media would have done if GW Bush had released Photoshopped, redacted images of his National Guard records?


104 posted on 07/21/2008 7:07:37 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
>>>I doubt the DNC checked it out.

Trust me, that's not how the system works. The “interest sheet” for a person considering running for Congress runs about 24 pages! It's about the same data needed to start a TS/Omega. They spend somewhere between $750,000 to $1,250,000 per candidate.

>>>The fact the Obama campaign hasn’t killed this issue is very telling. He can’t afford any more distractions like this. They worked so hard to kill the Muslim thing and now they are letting this fester? It doesn’t make sense.

This has NO legs anywhere but here on the net. And, it only has legs among those who would never vote for him anyway. Why should they waste time. Let the distraction live.

Finally, the Muslim thing v. natural citizenship is a very different issue. The all important swing voters might move away from him on the Muslim issue, but on the citizenship issue, any person who is going to vote for him because of his promise of “free money,” (that's what it boils down to) isn't going to let some (what they would say is) “some little technicality” stand in their way.

Among the “give me everything for free” crowd, Con Law is not a big thing!

105 posted on 07/21/2008 7:50:31 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: MindBender26

Yeah but Obama doesn’t need to sway those voters. You add “Maybe he’s a foriegner” to that Muslim thing and you got trouble with the swing voters.

And the Muslim thing was a Net thing too.


106 posted on 07/21/2008 8:14:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: MindBender26

I understand what you’re saying. But the MSM is not publishing or broadcasting information about his political actions.

McCain has made many trips to Iraq and Afghanistan. No news anchors - ABC, CBS, NBC - followed him around, hanging on every word. Obama presently has an entourage that includes those news anchors. Gosh, no bias there, UNH!

Last night I found an article about Obama and Kenya. This article stated that he has dual citizenship - U.S. and Kenya. Why not politicize that?

I haven’t heard a word about it, not from the radio talk shows, the cable channels, or the print media. Sometimes I doubt journalists are actually doing their jobs. Then I remember the news reporters killed investigating the fiscal ties between Occidental Petroleum and the Gore family in Tennessee; today people investigating Obama’s past have received death threat.

My computer has been repeatedly hacked and my hard drives mapped, the data sent off to a government IPO in Washington, D.C. I sincerely doubt that it is the Bush Administration investigating little old me. More likely it is the same folks who threatened to kill the family of the man who had posted an online petition for Obama to release his BC, or the people who left a dead animal hanging on the front door of the guy who analysed the Certificate of Live Birth and declared it a forgery.

If it wasn’t important, Sir, why would the Obamatistas go to such lengths when it could land them a long prison term. The Federal statutes for violating someone’s civil rights have substantial penalties, I believe.

As you can tell, I don’t think I’m wasting my time.


107 posted on 07/21/2008 1:21:50 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: SatinDoll

I’m sorry to seem so rude, but do you have one iota of legally sustainable proof that any of this happened?

Computers hacked, dead animals, death threats.

Quite frankly, it all seems to be delusional rantings to me.


108 posted on 07/21/2008 1:51:44 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: MindBender26

Yeah. We reported the hacking to the FBI. It seems a shadow server was operating behind the one here at FreeRepublic. We also contacted McAffee and FR.

The death threats towards someones family? Well, that is their responsibility to report it to authorities. Same goes for “techdude”. I guess he should be glad it wasn’t a decapitated horse head in his bed!


109 posted on 07/21/2008 3:38:48 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: MindBender26
He is “natural born citizen” under two provisions of Title 8, US Code. “Natural born” citizenship can be gained in many ways other than being born here. He qualifies under two provisions of the Code. If reading, start with sec 1401 and go from there. I’m an attorney. Trust me on this one.

Well gosh I have some difficulty reading 8 USC Sec. 1401--could you help me out. Which provisions are you talking about? How does it work. These legal issues are a little complicated and we could use a real attorney to help us figure them out.

Thanks.

110 posted on 08/05/2008 5:48:35 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: MindBender26

“I’m an attorney. Trust me on this one.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!


111 posted on 08/05/2008 5:59:00 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: MindBender26
>>>> What was his mother doing on Mercer Island when he was three weeks old? She didn’t even know how to change his diaper. There were no direct flights between Hawaii and Seattle in 1961, and airlines wouldn’t allow small infants on airplanes then because of noise and sanitation factors.

The problem is, that's NOT what the woman in the interview says. She says “I can remember when she came to visit one afternoon when Barry was just FEW weeks old.” She says NOTHING about him being THREE weeks old. She says a FEW weeks.

To her, a few could have been two weeks old, or 20 weeks old.

The problem again, is people depending on what one person says another person said, and when you investigate, you learn they did NOT say that at all.

The interview is Susan Blake. The best timing fix is her extensive and clear description--"Stanley hadn't learned to change diapers yet; I had to tell her, Babies do this so you have to get the technique down." Mothers get it together pretty fast--like first week after birth mostly, even if they haven't studied it or been shown by pals.

Susan says the event was in the last half of August. And that Stanley Ann was on her way to visit Obama Sr. in Boston where he was attending school at Harvard.

Fact is that Obama Sr. was not in Boston in August 1961. He went to Harvard in August, 1962, a year later. Long after Stanley Ann would have learned to change diapers.

And Seattle is not exactly a way stop from Honolulu to Boston either.

Access from Kenya to the Western US is by British Overseas Airline--schedules for the airline in July-September of 1961 are posted on the main Born In Kenya thread confirming that the routing from Kenya would be from Nairobi to Glaskow to Vancouver BC. As I know from personal experience in the period, most people on a trip from British Africa to the Western US used ground transportation from Vancouver to Sea Tac; the Mercer Island stop was on the way to Sea Tac to get a return flight to Honolulu from Kenya.

112 posted on 08/05/2008 6:10:36 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: David
This is all such idiocy.

Even Art Bell wouldn't go with this (Sorry, Art.)

Stop. Think. if there was anything to this, would the hundreds of investigators hired by the DNC, RNC, Hillary, Biden, Edwards, etc have found it.

I am off this ridiculousness.

When we found the falsity in the Bush-Rather documents, we brought respoect to FR. This simply retelling what every other nut job with a computer is posting elsewhere is costing us any reputation we had.

113 posted on 08/05/2008 8:46:14 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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