Posted on 07/11/2008 8:34:46 PM PDT by freespirited
This bombshell was made by Atlas reader techdude in the comment section (oh and btw, techdude, send the screenshots):
UPDATE: KOS released another birth certificate? How funny that cigar man calls me "this Geller character" :) You know Stogie ...... he helped me design my new banner.
Stogie, you funny
Techdude sent me the screenshots: Analysis
Analysis 3
Techdude said, "Sorry about the image quality but damn it Jim I am a geek not a graphics junkie! (sorry...trekkie moment) I believe they should get the point across. The "cut & paste" artifacts are rather obvious in the "analysis3.jpg" as are the overlapping joints and gaps in the security borders".
ping.
Ping for morning coffee reading.
It won’t matter.
Did it matter that Bill Clinton NEVER released his medical records?
Ahhh....brings me back to the pleasant memories of the Dan Rather documents...whatever happened to Dan?
The sperm donor took off. The mother had the sense to realize she was unfit and couldn’t afford, Obama so she handed her off to the bleeding heart, WHITE Grandmother to raise.
Were FR and pissant around in 1992?
Are you serious?
We really need a Hawaiian native to check old newspaper records. If Obama was really born in Hawaii, it should have appeared in the Honolulu paper. A few days after Aug 4, 1961
Dan is suing CBS for rightful termination.
this is going to get interesting!
“Were FR and pissant around in 1992?”
pissant Has been here -> Since Jun 18, 2003
Click on his nsme and you will be directed to his webpage.
I *think* FR was started in 1992 but you need to check with someone else about that - I’m not sure when FR started. I’ve ony been here since Jun 26, 1998.
Bump!
Well many of us saw him as a Bastar$ anyway.. it would just be nice to have documentary proof such.
Well, the poor guy is probably just a garden of STDs...
Jim might have had a bulletin board in 1992, but I think 1997 was the first year of FreeRepublic as we now know it. At least 1997 is the earliest membership date.
If Obama was really born in Hawaii, it should have appeared in the Honolulu paper. A few days after Aug 4, 1961
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Probably not if he was illegitimate
Not in 1961...
LOL, First thing I thought too while contemplating what he might want to hide....
Someone needs to show this (so-called) EXPERT the other LEGIT Hawaii BC’s that have the same border as the Obama BC.
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As a real forensic computer investigator (board certified, investigated thousands of cases, access to a full forensic computer lab, yadda yadda...) I decided to jump into the fray over the fake vs real discussion a week ago when a friend of mine challenged me to see what I could find (since according to him, the document was clearly a real one). He is what one would call a slightly rabid Obama supporter he even has the tattoo to prove it.
First things first...I used the latest online KOS version (downloaded 6/29/2008) as it was supposedly the first released digital copy and the Decosta certificate from Israel Insider's blog (also downloaded 6/29/2008) as an exemplar of a real certificate.
Of forensic interest on the KOS version is the EXIF metadata (encoded in the digital image data) showing that the KOS certificate was modified or created with "Adobe Photoshop CS3 Macintosh" on "2008:06:12 08:42:36". Assuming the EXIF data was added after the document was scanned (assuming it is real) and the document modified only by placing a black-out section over the Certificate Number or if it was converted and saved for web use this would not be too unusual. The Daily KOS released the story on 2008:06:12 08:44:37 which would be 2 minutes after the graphic's EXIF stamp was created.
Before I became a forensic geek I worked for [a herein nameless publicly traded company] that designed counterfeit detection hardware and software for the banking and retail industry. The company was very high profile and we received training from [a certain herein nameless department of the Federal government that knows a thing or two about counterfeiting] - but I do not claim to be an all around expert in Questioned Documents but after several years of working with them I do know what to look for to spot an obvious fake.
That being said...I too was able to see "something" that looked like a seal - however even using highly specialized software (specifically designed for law enforcement and forensic examiner use for cleaning up digital images and video) I was unable to recover anything more than what others have previously released using a basic find edges and modification of the contrast. Even when the background security paper pattern was removed there was not enough of a "seal" to view anything usable or verifiable which is a bit odd but still might be possible if the seal had been completely flattened out in the mail, etc. There is also a fold which runs vertically across the top of the certificate which is close to the same location on the Decosta certificate.
At this point I was beginning to believe the certificate was real until I resized and overlaid the Decosta certificate on top of the KOS version. All things being equal there was a 3.82% difference in the size of the KOS version vs the Decosta certificate - but again depending on the optical distortion from the scanner this too was explainable. But upon manually stretching them to match edge to edge I caught a glimpse of what I and apparently everyone else had simply not noticed. The security borders do not match. Literally. They are not even close to identical. For instance "Decosta" contains five 10 pixel wide "diamonds" per vertical row while the "KOS Obama" contains 2 to 2 1/4 36 pixel wide diamonds per vertical row. These differences can clearly be observed even with the naked eye although you may need to enlarge the graphics on your screen. Taking the measurements further - Decosta's "Certification of Live Birth" heading is centered between security diamond pattern and is 762 pixels wide @ 0% angle while Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" heading is not centered evenly between security diamond pattern and is 794 pixels wide @ 0% angle. Decosta's "Any Alterations" footer is centered evenly between security diamond pattern and is 1244 pixels wide @ 0% angle while Obama's "Any Alterations" footer is not centered evenly between security diamond pattern and is 1294 pixels wide @ 0% angle. I kept the comparative screen shots in case anyone wants them.
I am unable to explain the differences between the security diamond sizes and counts and the un-centered portions (meaning the diamond pattern ends on an odd pattern instead of even where it meets the edges of the header and footer boxes). Looking closer at the KOS certificate (magnified to 400%) clearly shows inconsistencies in the security border such as cut and paste marks and overlaying of the side borders where they meet the top and bottom. This effect is not observed in the Decosta certificate at any magnification. Another point of interest, removing the background security pattern did not remove the background area from underneath the security border on the KOS certificate. The color and hue values of the background pattern located and viewable through the security border are also not a match to the rest of the certificate background. I can not explain these discrepancies. I then noticed there were some indications that the background pattern had been duplicated and placed in various locations to clean up the document. Now at some point I just started to laugh and went out for a smoke and gave up looking for more.
I am convinced that the certificate is a fake (and not really a very good one) and I went into this with a completely open mind (something the Obamanationalists seem to have lost). I also have to say that everyone who has been looking into this federal crime (and it is a federal crime even if the certificates were never meant to be used for identification) have done a stupendous job and I wish they all worked for my lab. Talk about a winning team.